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re: ADs threaten to "freeze out" ND on future schedules due to playoff favoritism
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:55 pm to BreakawayZou83
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:55 pm to BreakawayZou83
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The reason the SEC is so powerful and stable is because the top programs appreciate the value of equal membership across its members and they don't publicly whine or destabilize the conference.
If only it were truly equal and certain teams didn't get blatant favoritism in several ways, but sure Bama is an example of a giant willing to sacrifice fully for fairness to the peons.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:59 pm to Kinderman
25 years ago, Irish fans were everywhere. The hats, the shirts, the team had a legitimate national fanbase presence. As of today, I can’t think of the last time I ran into a Notre Dame fan. They simply do not have the presence nor do they command the attention of the average CFB. The idea that they somehow deserve preferential treatment because their name when the reality is they are a fragment of their former glory is beyond irritating. Either join a conference or don’t, but STFU with this idea that the rest of the CFB world needs to blow you every time a major decision is made.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:35 pm to Geauxgurt
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If only it were truly equal and certain teams didn't get blatant favoritism in several ways, but sure Bama is an example of a giant willing to sacrifice fully for fairness to the peons.
Whatever gripes y'all might have about the REC putting in work are pretty minor in comparison to how the big dogs treat the smaller ones in most conferences.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:43 pm to Kinderman
Good. They should.
frick changing the rules because one program got left out. A program that refused to join a conference.
frick changing the rules because one program got left out. A program that refused to join a conference.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:46 pm to Kinderman
1) Wolken overall is not very credible when it comes to ND, if you know some of his background. Obviously, he probably talked to some ADs that probably will choose to avoid ND. But there are over 130 in FBS and you only need to schedule 12 games. The article is click-baity in general.
2) All the conferences agreed to the MOU a year ago. It is being treated as if this: a) was not previously unanimously agreed upon; and b) is a direct response to Sunday. Neither of those are true.
3) Relatedly, the MOU is now irrelevant. The committee moved Bama ahead of ND after beating 5-7 Auburn by 7, and didn’t move Bama down after losing by 21 to UGA. Had UVA beaten Duke, the committee likely would’ve kept ND in (probably at 9, with Bama at 10) but the ACC needed a team so Miami moved ahead. Point being: The committee will manipulate things as necessary, and if ND is #11 or 12, the committee will just move ND to #13 to get #10 in, if needed. (I think when Bevacqua agreed to it, he didn’t see something like that happening. Now it’s obvious that would happen, so he should back out of the MOU, in my opinion.)
4) In general, the conferences don’t want ND to join a conference unless it’s theirs. This is why, at a conference level, you won’t see a conference prohibit teams from scheduling ND. Again, a minority of athletic directors might choose not to.
2) All the conferences agreed to the MOU a year ago. It is being treated as if this: a) was not previously unanimously agreed upon; and b) is a direct response to Sunday. Neither of those are true.
3) Relatedly, the MOU is now irrelevant. The committee moved Bama ahead of ND after beating 5-7 Auburn by 7, and didn’t move Bama down after losing by 21 to UGA. Had UVA beaten Duke, the committee likely would’ve kept ND in (probably at 9, with Bama at 10) but the ACC needed a team so Miami moved ahead. Point being: The committee will manipulate things as necessary, and if ND is #11 or 12, the committee will just move ND to #13 to get #10 in, if needed. (I think when Bevacqua agreed to it, he didn’t see something like that happening. Now it’s obvious that would happen, so he should back out of the MOU, in my opinion.)
4) In general, the conferences don’t want ND to join a conference unless it’s theirs. This is why, at a conference level, you won’t see a conference prohibit teams from scheduling ND. Again, a minority of athletic directors might choose not to.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 12/11/25 at 3:55 pm to Kinderman
Couldn't happen to a better school
Posted on 12/11/25 at 4:03 pm to bayoujd
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If they lead the charge to get other teams to break out of conference chokeholds and out from under a useless NCAA, then they may be on to something - formation of a super league of 32 teams and run it similar to the NFL in terms of divisions, a front office, and an overall commissioner.
They’ll do this and then choose not to be a part of it?
Posted on 12/11/25 at 4:06 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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Relatedly, the MOU is now irrelevant.
It was already irrelevant because the committee still hasn’t decided on the “rules” of the playoff next season. It was never an “official” thing. The committee has until January 23rd to decide on the new rules, and I doubt that the ND auto-qualification thing will be part of the official rules.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 4:09 pm to Kinderman
I’ve said this a million times before and I’ll say it again: Notre Dame is the definition of an elitist school with an elitist fanbase. They are, in every way, as bad if not worst than Harvard when it comes to classism/elitism. All you have to do is look at the average family income statistics of students that attend ND.
My personal tin-foil hat theory for why they’ve been revered for so long by the big media conglomerates is because they’ve always had a huge alumni presence in those companies. For decades, their alumni managed to take up executive positions at companies like ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. As a result of being in higher-up positions, they wanted these companies to make journalistic pieces about “how great Notre Dame is”.
My personal tin-foil hat theory for why they’ve been revered for so long by the big media conglomerates is because they’ve always had a huge alumni presence in those companies. For decades, their alumni managed to take up executive positions at companies like ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. As a result of being in higher-up positions, they wanted these companies to make journalistic pieces about “how great Notre Dame is”.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 12/11/25 at 5:18 pm to Kinderman
they still have the boomers, as dwindling as it gets, they still do have them left
Posted on 12/11/25 at 5:26 pm to bayou85
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We need to go to Josh Pate's 7 Power conferences with 10 teams each.
There aren’t 70 power teams
Posted on 12/11/25 at 5:28 pm to JasonDBlaha
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I’ve said this a million times before and I’ll say it again: Notre Dame is the definition of an elitist school with an elitist fanbase. They are, in every way, as bad if not worst than Harvard when it comes to classism/elitism.
From Notre Dame:
The University of Notre Dame's student aid philosophy centers on providing a Catholic, values-based education to all deserving students, meeting 100% of demonstrated financial need for undergraduates through grants and scholarships (not loans) via its Pathways to Notre Dame program, ensuring affordability regardless of background, and[ maintaining a need-blind policy for all applicants, including internationals, to focus on merit and potential, not money.
On Notre Dame's webpage they note that 70% of undergraduates receive some form of financial aid with $64,200 being the median need-based scholarship awarded to incoming first-year students. In other words, if you can get admitted you will be able to afford Notre Dame.
Notre Dame is able to do this because it has a very high endowment of $16.62 billion and a total Undergraduate enrollment of only 8,800 students. Admission to Notre Dame is Highly Selective and applicants require high test scores, high achievement in High School and involvement in extra-curricular activities are important (student government, involvement in sports, volunteer activities, etc.).
If that makes Notre Dame "Elitist", well so be it.........
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 7:59 pm
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