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re: Adam James in the shed(video)

Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:52 am to
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12329 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:52 am to
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and you are missing that he did it out of SPITE

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That shite don't fly anymore

why not??
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12329 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:54 am to
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but Leach was out of line with the way he handled it

how do you know this, or how do you even come to this conclusion at this point??
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16823 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:56 am to
ESPN showed a video that was taken by Adam James' cell phone. it was deceiving as shite, giving the appearance of a little closet.
Posted by Michael J Cocks
Right Here
Member since Jun 2007
47157 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:32 am to
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he seemed like he was enjoying being the sneaky boy with the camera



Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:37 am to
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ESPN showed a video that was taken by Adam James' cell phone. it was deceiving as shite, giving the appearance of a little closet.


Did it look like the place you would send one of your players to for treatment?
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17372 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:40 am to
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Did it look like the place you would send one of your players to for treatment?
How do you know that it was the place that Leach sent him? All I saw was a crybaby douchebag with a cellphone who was whispering. Not exactly a "smoking gun"
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:40 am to
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I'm not saying the guy isn't a total dip shite, but Leach was out of line with the way he handled it. Schools spend millions building facilities to treat players when they are injured. Yet, this dumbass puts a kid in a equipment shed and an electrical closet?

This is one of those cases where Leach was pissed because the guy would not return to practice as fast as he thought he should. He took it out on the kid by placing him in those types of areas.


This

The unconditional love for Leach on this board is the damnest thing Ive ever seen. He's a fricking prick and has been for years.
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:42 am to
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How do you know that it was the place that Leach sent him? All I saw was a crybaby douchebag with a cellphone who was whispering. Not exactly a "smoking gun"


We werent talking about that. I was responding to your statement that the video was decieving and made it look like a small electrical closet.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17372 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:47 am to
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bomber77
If you can't see that Texas Tech and the James gang have it out for Leach, I don't know what to tell you. Have you read the e-mails about Leach from TT? Something's fishy
Posted by charlottetiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2007
7965 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:49 am to
I would love to see a spoof of "I'm on a boat" called "I'm in a shed, BITCH"
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108314 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:54 am to
Adam James looks just like you Maximus.
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:58 am to
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If you can't see that Texas Tech and the James gang have it out for Leach, I don't know what to tell you. Have you read the e-mails about Leach from TT? Something's fishy


I agree that no one knows the whole story yet. Its no doubt that TT wanted him gone even before this incident. Leach has always been an arrogant prick though. I dont understand blaming this on anyone but Leach. TT didnt want him so they fired his arse.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27780 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 10:13 am to
Noone knows the whole story. But we know enough. Leach handled it improperly. There were problems between him and Tech before this happened behind the scenes. A move like this is not made against the most successful coach a team has had unless there is something underlying.

The James kid may be a douche and a turd or whatever. SO WHAT!!!! You CANNOT put him in a closet!!! Leach should have known that. If he is a turd then you cut him or pull his scholarship. Bench him. As a coach you have so many other things you can do. shite you could probably get a doctor to say sit him for a year. This could be argued as treatment and "in his best interest." Not locking him in a closet. He let his anger get the better of him and did this to the wrong kid and the wrong guys kid AND in the wrong decade.
Posted by lpd1975
At the lake
Member since Nov 2007
2797 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 10:14 am to
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I guess you guys don't see the use of the shed and electrical closet as a disciplinary action, to pressure the guy to return to practice

I keep reading this from the Leach bashers and I don't get it at all. From all accounts, this kid was not really contibuting to the program at all. IMO Leach was not tring to pressure him to practice/play. He was making it hard on him so that he would either:

A See that his effort was not sufficient and therefore have a change of heart and become a harder working athelte.
or
B Leave the team and transfer to another school.

This happens all of the time in college football. Discipline a player into making a choice.

Now what happened here may/may not have been excessive considering the injury (whether is was real or not).

IMO, the only factors that are relevant is whether or not Adam James was ever put into a situation where there was potential for his injury to be made worse and if he was indeed "locked" into these areas. So far, what I have seen and read tells me that the answer is no to both.
This post was edited on 12/31/09 at 10:21 am
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37013 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 10:22 am to
Ultimately Adam James was told to go stand in a room. Adam James chose to go stand in that room. He made his decision. And now he is crying about it.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27780 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 10:23 am to
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IMO Leach was not tring to pressure him to practice/play. He was making it hard on him so that he would either:

A See that his effort was not sufficient and therefore have a change of heart and become a harder working athelte.
or
B Leave the team and transfer to another school.

This happens all of the time in college football. Discipline a player into making a choice.

Now what happened here may/may not have been excessive considering the injury (whether is was real or not).

IMO, the only factor that is relevant is whether or not Adam James was ever put into a situation where there was potential for his injury to be made worse and if he was indeed "locked"



And for all of this Leach would be WRONG. And should lose his job. You discipline a kid with playing time only. You take it away and if he is worth a damn as a player and competitor he will improve. But doing this just makes you look like the idiot and James as the victim. IF you are smart enough or level headed enough to know this you should not be a head coach of a D-1 school. That is the kind of shite a special teams coach would try and a head coach would put a stop to.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27780 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 10:25 am to
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Ultimately Adam James was told to go stand in a room. Adam James chose to go stand in that room. He made his decision. And now he is crying about it.




Your Head Coach tells you to do something. What was James going to tell him? frick off? I quit? Nope. He is apparently too savvy of a kid to do that. And Leach was too stupid to realize how a move like this could cost him everything.
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 10:26 am to
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And for all of this Leach would be WRONG. And should lose his job. You discipline a kid with playing time only. You take it away and if he is worth a damn as a player and competitor he will improve. But doing this just makes you look like the idiot and James as the victim. IF you are smart enough or level headed enough to know this you should not be a head coach of a D-1 school. That is the kind of shite a special teams coach would try and a head coach would put a stop to


+ 1
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37013 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 10:30 am to
Sorry, if my head coach tells me to do something that I think is either threatening or can injure me then I am saying no to him.

James could have walked out of that room at any time. And now he is crying about it. He chose to stay in there.

Oh, and James doctor said doing so was good for him.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17372 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 10:30 am to
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Your Head Coach tells you to do something. What was James going to tell him? frick off?
From what I've read and heard about this douchebag, it's definetly not beyond him to do this
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Leach was too stupid
I wouldn't exactly call Leach stupid. I'd go one step further, and say he comes out on top of this situation
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