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re: 'A million percent broken': college football is at a breaking point.

Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:16 pm to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39420 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:16 pm to
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I've lost 90% of my care for college sports. I watch it here and there. Haven't watched a full game all year.


I'm with you here.

The only game I watched from beginning to end suffering through endless commercials was Ohio State @ Oregon.....and it just so happened to be the best game of the year.

But most games.... Jump in, jump out....catch the scores, wait for highlights on YouTube. There should be a book written about how CFB managed to alienate and lose the most passionate fanbase in sports in America.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5689 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:31 am to
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There should be a book written about how CFB managed to alienate and lose the most passionate fanbase in sports in America.

Maybe college football never should have been about “passionate fans” and recruiting freaks of nature around the country that don’t really even belong in college.

Maybe it should just be an extracurricular activity played by actual students with no win-at-all-costs attitude at an institution of higher learning. No multimillion dollar coaches, no TV cameras, no 100,000 seat stadiums, no games three time zones away, no six month seasons.

The fans and their demand for winning and entertainment perverted college football decades ago.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:05 am to
I’m fine with NIL. This is America, you have a right to make money, even if the college won’t necessarily pay you. However, the NCAA should clearly state that once you sign with the college you’re with them at least until you graduate , Go Pro , or drop out of school in which case your NCAA career is done. This unlimited transfer thing is absolute madness. It feels like it all started with, “I think I heard somebody say the N word I have no evidence to prove it but trust me it happened. I’ll go ahead now and transfer immediately.”
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 6:07 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54837 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:41 am to
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However, the NCAA should clearly state that once you sign with the college you’re with them at least until you graduate , Go Pro , or drop out of school in which case your NCAA career is done


Guys will be pissed if they sign to play somewhere like Nicholls but then get too good for that level
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
9176 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 7:03 am to
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Guys will be pissed if they sign to play somewhere like Nicholls but then get too good for that level
ok , good point.
Posted by GVT
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2004
1036 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 8:06 am to
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Guys will be pissed if they sign to play somewhere like Nicholls but then get too good for that level


Half of NFL rosters are filled with players from "that level". There definitely needs to be restrictions on transfers because cfb won't survive with both nil and the portal.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31686 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 12:54 pm to
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You have posted about Auburn sports an awful lot for someone who doesn't really care about it at all...


Over the last 5 years or so probably..
I've posted a few posts. I didn't really watch any games. I get all the info I need here. No need to watch the games.
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 2:30 pm
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
12300 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 1:03 pm to
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this is 100% the fault of the "blue bloods"


They bear some responsibility for sure. But to say 100% is a huge overstatement.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
907 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 1:26 pm to
You guys are funny. All of you were dying for this sport when your team was buying players under the table and winning. You think Burrow magically choose LSU? Now that everyone can do the same thing and these fake juggernaut schools are losing games suddenly it’s a problem?

The sport has sucked for 60 years because no one stopped the cheaters and the fan bases that complained about it were shouted down as poor losers. Now that the Vandys are beating the Bama’s we are suppose to care?

NIL and the portal are awesome tools to make everyone competitive if they choose. I love watching these juggernaut teams of the fake past lose because they can’t hold players hostage anymore.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39995 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 1:55 pm to
Seems easy enough to just have kids sign contracts. Can be a 1, 2, or 3 year contract. They are free agents during their senior season of high school and after their junior season of college.

An institution and the player can terminate the contract early by mutual agreement, granting the player early access to the transfer portal.

A player under contract can enter the transfer portal if the sitting head coach is fired or leaves for another program.

That's it. That's all that needs to be done. Brings back the importance of scouting and recruiting high school football players. The players get paid. The "grayshirt" still exists in the form of a 1 year contract. Universities don't have to worry about pouring millions of dollars and countless hours into a kid only for another program to tamper and buy him after you've trained him. It isn't rocket science
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71158 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 2:08 pm to
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All of you were dying for this sport when your team was buying players under the table and winning.


$1000 handshakes =/= $10.5 million signing deals.

No one was ever deluding themselves. We knew money was involved in the sport and players were being paid.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72131 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 2:27 pm to
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I've lost 90% of my care for college sports. I watch it here and there. Haven't watched a full game all year. Just don't really care about college sports or Auburn really for that matter. It's just a school. Like the rest of them. Just schools.


Same man. And I was obsessed for a long time.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40359 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 2:29 pm to
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$1000 handshakes =/= $10.5 million signing deals.



channing crowder was on bussin with the boys talking about NC state offering him 50k, handshakes every recruiting visit and cars in his moms name

I think we are all underestimating how much money was going to players back in the day

sure it is more now but dudes were always getting paid.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17588 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 2:32 pm to
I'll die on the hill that NIL was always the correct call. Not allowing athletes to profit a dime, when everyone else around them was making bank off of their likeness was not only completely idiotic, but also illegal. The NCAA refused to cave on this issue for many many years, until the courts forced them to.

Due to the courts getting involved, now we have unlimited NIL with no restrictions, but also an unlimited transfer portal as well. The NCAA was fricking over its athletes for multiple decades, and so now the courts have decided to frick over the NCAA.

From the beginning, all the NCAA had to do was allow NIL, but with restrictions in place. Completely fair game for an athlete to profit on their likeness. They can accept endorsement deals from whomever, they can appear in tv commercials, etc. But they were not allowed to receive payment directly from the university/those directly affiliated with the university. Thereby, getting rid of the NIL collective. Along with this, the previous transfer rules would still be in place. It could have all been so simply, but the NCAA dragged their heels on this, and so here we are.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68443 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 2:56 pm to
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From the beginning, all the NCAA had to do was allow NIL, but with restrictions in place. Completely fair game for an athlete to profit on their likeness. They can accept endorsement deals from whomever, they can appear in tv commercials, etc. But they were not allowed to receive payment directly from the university/those directly affiliated with the university. Thereby, getting rid of the NIL collective.

I just don't think that distinction would ever matter. It was always going to end up in bidding wars by donors, whether you dress it up as NIL or direct pay for play.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 3:01 pm to
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I'll die on the hill that NIL was always the correct call. Not allowing athletes to profit a dime, when everyone else around them was making bank off of their likeness was not only completely idiotic, but also illegal. The NCAA refused to cave on this issue for many many years, until the courts forced them to. Due to the courts getting involved, now we have unlimited NIL with no restrictions, but also an unlimited transfer portal as well. The NCAA was fricking over its athletes for multiple decades, and so now the courts have decided to frick over the NCAA. From the beginning, all the NCAA had to do was allow NIL, but with restrictions in place. Completely fair game for an athlete to profit on their likeness. They can accept endorsement deals from whomever, they can appear in tv commercials, etc. But they were not allowed to receive payment directly from the university/those directly affiliated with the university. Thereby, getting rid of the NIL collective. Along with this, the previous transfer rules would still be in place. It could have all been so simply, but the NCAA dragged their heels on this, and so here we are.


Anyone that disagree with this is a moron
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
United States of America
Member since Mar 2024
13008 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 3:21 pm to
it's broken for sure but I am still greatly enjoying bowl season

plus i think the CFP is going to be epic
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
907 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 4:09 pm to
Sure, NIL involves a lot more money the effect of a million dollar NIL and a thousand dollar handshake or car for mom is the same - teams got better players. UGA paid for Herschel and won a Natty. It doesn’t matter if it was for 1 car or a million bucks.

The sport is not broken. What’s broken is the iron grip of about 15 schools who could load up on 4 and 5 stars and stockpile them in the bench for years. Those days are over. So, if Oregon wants to have a series of one and done QB’s then so be it. It’s no different than what UGA did when they had Fromm, Eason, and Fields all at the same time to deprive their rivals from those players. Y’all are just mad now that any school can buy a stud. When demand is high prices will rise. I love it.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51397 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:47 pm to
It’s weird that there were no articles about college football being broken when coaches were approaching $10 million salaries employers weren’t getting paid a penny
Posted by BradBallard
Wilmington, Delaware
Member since Jun 2020
567 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 7:45 pm to
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Exactly. It was always remarkable how dismissive people were of the value the players were receiving by being scholar ship athletes. People had the audacity to call them slaves when you have people clamoring to be in the position to have full rides to college. It’s a joke



Out of state tuition at Big State U along with room and board is well north of 40K per year. Hardly a small amount.
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