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re: A look back on 2019 lsu vs 2001 Miami and 1995 Nebraska

Posted on 7/14/22 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 3:47 pm to
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….because they won 3 games by a combined 15 points. Was the math not clear in the post you responded to?


Now factor in the strength of schedule and average margin of victory. Then also consider how fricking prolific the offense was against that competition. Or don't because you're butt hurt that your team didn't do it.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 3:55 pm to
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No


Clearly it does, because a lot of people will tell you 2001 Miami is one of the GOAT teams




and those people are wrong and/or dumb.

Just because a bunch of people say something doesn't magically transform it into being truth
Posted by Peter167
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:02 pm to
Those 3 guys are a big reason why i would pick LSU. With Burrow throwing it to Chase and Jefferson idk who's stopping it.

I remember Jamarr Chase absolutely killing AJ Terrell in that championship game. He just made second team all pro this past yr btw.

Posted by S
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:21 pm to
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The most in doubt LSUs perfect season came was I guess that 3rd and long late in the 4th at Texas


I wanna say Florida had a chance at a go ahead drive in the 4th quarter but Muffins outthought himself as usual and put Emory fricking Jones in the game.
Posted by Peter167
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:33 pm to
Petty sure it was late in the third or so inside LSU 5 and Trask threw a pick on the goal line. That would of tied it at 35? I'm not sure.

Went touchdown for touchdown with y'all for a while but the better team emerged in the 4th.
Posted by Globetrotter747
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:41 pm to
In a time machine game, 2019 LSU beats the shite out of 1995 Nebraska.

On paper, it’s hard to say. I do think 1995 Nebraska gets a little too much love for beating up on Florida defense that was a poor matchup for their offensive scheme in terms of both coaching and personnel. The FSU, Miami, Oklahoma defenses that troubled them so much in the ‘80s and ‘90s were way better in the defensive front. There wasn’t a Jerome Brown, Cortez Kennedy, Russell Maryland, or a Warren Sapp on that DL - nor were any coaches on staff familiar with their scheme.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 4:44 pm
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:45 pm to
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Petty sure it was late in the third or so inside LSU 5 and Trask threw a pick on the goal line. That would of tied it at 35? I'm not sure.


mid 4th from about the 15, but yes it was Trask and would have tied game at 35
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 4:54 pm to
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In a time machine game, 2019 LSU beats the shite out of 1995 Nebraska.



again, depends on the rules/style of game they play by.
mid 90s rules? LSU is in a dogfight, but likely wins.

2019 rules? LSU in a blowout.

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I do think 1995 Nebraska gets a little too much love for beating up on Florida defense that was a poor matchup for their offensive scheme in terms of both coaching and personnel.


they beat:
#8 team by 24
#7 team by 23
#10 team by 38
#2 team by 38

they trailed ONCE all season.
in the first quarter.
in September.





Posted by Globetrotter747
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:21 pm to
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they beat: #8 team by 24 #7 team by 23 #10 team by 38 #2 team by 38 they trailed ONCE all season. in the first quarter. in September.

Please tell me what legends of the gridiron starred on the 1995 Kansas, Kansas State, and Colorado teams. They were all in the top ten because they each played Iowa State eight times in the last year of the shitty Big 8.

Nebraska always beat the shite out of those teams under Osborne. A big difference between 1995 Nebraska and some of Osborne’s other great teams is there was no Switzer at Oklahoma and they had a more favorable matchup in the bowl game against a young Florida D with nothing close to a first round draft pick up front to disrupt their running game.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:24 pm to
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depends on the rules/style of game they play by.
mid 90s rules? LSU is in a dogfight,

Y'all overrate the hell out of "90s rules". There were finesse/passing teams back then, too. The 95 Nebraska D was less complicated than high school defenses today. The mental side of the game is far too advanced for a direct comparison
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:32 pm to
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The very next year Alabama beat Florida in the SEC title game by 8 points. Their next closest games were beating Ole Miss by 14 and Georgia by 17.


2020 doesn't count.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:37 pm to
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Part of the argument of GOAT team consists of college dominance as well as future football success



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But 2001 Miami dominates 1995 Nebraska on success in the pros



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So 2 years removed, let’s check how lsu is doing with early nfl success



All of this is totally and complete irrelevant when judging who the best college team or teams are.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:49 pm to
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Y'all overrate the hell out of "90s rules". There were finesse/passing teams back then, too. The 95 Nebraska D was less complicated than high school defenses today. The mental side of the game is far too advanced for a direct comparison


Somewhat true but they’d be able to get away with a lot on our receivers that would be PI today and you cant run the slant as a base route without getting your wideouts layed out.

Burrow would still be Burrow
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 6:55 pm to
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Or don't because you're butt hurt that your team didn't do it.


My team did it better a year later

You poor bastards will be clinging to that season for the rest of your lives
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 7:21 pm to
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Now factor in the strength of schedule and average margin of victory.


Well, you asked for it:





LINK

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 7:39 pm to
You seem to have forgotten half of what I asked for. Stop trying to make your covid team relevant. No one beisdes y'all gives a frick

But take a look at that last 3 for 2019 LSU. Congrats furthering the argument that 2019 destroyed the best competition.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 7:41 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 7:41 pm to
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My team did it better a year later


No one thinks this but y'all.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:04 pm to
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Stop trying to make your covid team relevant. No one beisdes y'all gives a frick


ESPN does...

SEC Teams:

16. 2014 Alabama (12-2)
15. 2017 Georgia (13-2)
13. 2021 Alabama (12-1)
12. 2016 Alabama (14-1)
9. 2015 Alabama (14-1)
7. 2021 Georgia (12-1)
6. 2018 Alabama (14-1)
4. 2017 Alabama (13-1)
2. 2019 LSU (15-0)
1. 2020 Alabama (13-0)
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:12 pm to
ESPN
Posted by moontigr
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:26 pm to
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Nebraska always beat the shite out of those teams under Osborne. A big difference between 1995 Nebraska and some of Osborne’s other great teams is there was no Switzer at Oklahoma and they had a more favorable matchup in the bowl game against a young Florida D with nothing close to a first round draft pick up front to disrupt their running game.


OK well in 94 they beat Miami in the Orange Bowl, and Miami had 4 NFL 1st-round picks on defense. The defense was totally gassed by the 4Q. The 95 team was essentially the same team with a revamped O-line. People expected the O-line to be the the weakness but they ended up being better than the 94 line. Nobody was beating that team.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 8:30 pm
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