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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:13 pm to
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I’m guessing Lando was too close today for Max to get a pair of softs and get a point for fastest lap


They don't give a point for fastest lap anymore. Danny Ric killed that.
Posted by MississippiLebowski
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:36 am to
Red Bull fined for trying to re-enter the track after the formation lap had started to remove a marker McLaren had put on the wall to help Lando line up for the start.

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Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:30 am to
This is the type of petty gamesmanship that I love about F1.

The rest of the story is that McLaren have been using the tape for weeks and Red Bull have been fricking with the tape for weeks.

This week McLaren allegedly used a different method to make taking the tape off harder.

Not sure if that was why RBR had to come back. Mechanic should have known he was going to get popped.
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:46 am to
Yeah, that’s some good petty shite.

Posted by MississippiLebowski
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:47 am to
Supposedly McLaren using the tape isn’t against the rules but it’s also not protected. Red Bull had every right to take it down if they wanted to.

They only got in trouble because they ignored a Marshall and tried to re-access the track as the marshal was closing the track.

This is the type of petty that you only see when there is a championship on the line.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:01 am to
I'm 100% here for McLaren's collapse. They did the soft thing and tried to walk the tight rope instead of doing the hard thing and locking up the WDC. They are now screwed because Oscar's pace has been fading so can they really back him if he can't even get behind lando?
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:20 pm to
Yea as a lifelong McLaren fan since 2019 I'm certainly starting to feel like they're going to screw this up. It was quite evident they won't make the difficult calls when Lando still had a fighting chance in 2024, now trying to play fair and sit on the fence in 2025 might cost them. If they feel Lando is their driver for the future, then fine, so be it, but this flip flopping back and forth may cost them both Lando and Oscar later down the line if another team has a spot come open for a solid #1 driver.

If Max wins I want him to win by just 1 point.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:25 pm to
Can we please hire Masi to come back for Abu Dhabi? I want to see some motor racing drama.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:02 pm to
Their best case scenario is that are both ahead of Max at the next race so they can let them race to some extent, but if Max is ahead, and they are P2 and P3, and Lando is P2, then they have a business decision to make.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:59 pm to
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cost them both Lando and Oscar later down the line if another team has a spot come open for a solid #1 driver


Either one would be idiots to leave for another race team. They won't be the #1 driver at any 1st tier team.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:21 pm to
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if Max is ahead, and they are P2 and P3, and Lando is P2, then they have a business decision to make.

Yup, if it looks like Max has the dominant car for the rest of the year, at some point very soon McLaren has to decide that the best bet to secure the WDC is to support the guy who has the bigger gap to Max. McLaren are assuming no DNFs (or more minor issues that would drop one of their cars down the order) in their calculations but anything can happen and I think they should have already shifted their focus to Oscar to keep the gap as big as possible. Of course with Oscar struggling lately it's not so simple. But if Max pulls it off, not only will everyone associated with McLaren be trolled endlessly by Red Bull and Red Bull fans, but Ferrari will have a great laugh too, since they have always been the biggest proponents of focusing on a #1 driver, to the point of humliating Barrichello and creating the most awkward podium ever seen.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:33 pm to
If Max wins this it isn't on anything Mclaren did or by not picking a #1 driver.

If you need your teammate to ruin their races for you to be WDC then you just won a second WCC title with less recognition.

The call in Monza didn’t lose Oscar the championship. His shite driving since the summer break did.
Posted by s14suspense
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:13 pm to
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Either one would be idiots to leave for another race team. They won't be the #1 driver at any 1st tier team.


Because there aren’t any spots available? Right?
They’d be great in another seat if it was good enough.

Think the driver’s championship is on the drivers at this point.

Don’t take out your teammate.
Qualify your arse off.

Both of those are what Max is good at.
Posted by MississippiLebowski
Member since Jul 2022
1193 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:30 pm to
Team work should be out the window at this point. Obviously don’t crash into each other but I assume both McLaren drivers would rather Max win the championship than their team mate. Seems like they would both be able to handle getting beaten by a generational world champ better than by their own teammate. Either way the margin of error is zero at this point.

Max has a combined 15 wins over the last 5 tracks.

Mexico- 5 wins
Brazil- 3 wins
Vegas- 1 win
Qatar- 2 wins
Abu Dhabi- 4 wins
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:38 pm to
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Because there aren’t any spots available? Right?
They’d be great in another seat if it was good enough.


No doubt. Max is at RBR and George is at Merc. Leclerc isn't leaving Ferrari until they make him.

They could do the Danny Ric try with Alpine and the new Merc engine. Aston is Stroll until the team is sold and goes through pains.

Max just hasn't had to worry about a teammate is the only reason he hasn't taken one out. They just parade lesser talent through that seat and wonder why it won't work out.

To me all the Mclaren incidents have all been extremely tame. Neither have done anything dirty or even aggressive to the other driver.

Prost v Senna, Alonso v Hamilton, Hamilton v Britney were ugly and dirty.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 4:00 pm to
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Team work should be out the window at this point. Obviously don’t crash into each other


Those statements don't go hand in hand

Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15827 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 4:08 pm to
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Those statements don't go hand in hand


Yeah, I should probably clarify my statement as well. Don’t pull a Max vs George 10 second time penalty a la Spain this year.
Posted by MississippiLebowski
Member since Jul 2022
1193 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 4:08 pm to
I’m saying other than “don’t crash into each other” the team shouldn’t get involved. They have done all they can do. With 5 races left both of their drivers are in a position to win the drivers championship. From here on out the team shouldn’t prioritize either driver, just do the best they can with the pit stops and get outta the way.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 5:46 pm to
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I’m saying other than “don’t crash into each other” the team shouldn’t get involved.


Thats a pretty big part of getting involved, especially with strategy as they have to get involved at some point for pit preference, which is usually who ever is leading, hence the hole shot being so important and dangerous.

I'm not envious of zak, but he got himself in this mess.

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