re: 2024 NASCAR Season Thread - 2024-25 Offseason

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So let's say Honda joins NASCAR. NASCAR awards 4 new charters. Increases the field size to 43 again. Chip Ganassi returns to field a two car team. What other teams are likely to join a 4th OEM? I can see Stewart-Haas since they're kinda stuck. But I can also see them sticking with Ford because Tony and Gene want to stick with an American OEM.

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It wouldn’t any major team initially. I think it could start off similar like Toyota did. I could see a mid field team like Front Row switching or a similar team switching. I don’t think it would ever happen because they are Ford’s top team, but Penske could be a wildcard.

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Dodge has stopped making both the Charger and the Challenger, so they don’t really have a car to put out there.

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shite, when did that happen?

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shite, when did that happen?

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2023 was the last year for both.

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If F1 can be international why can't NASCAR?

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NASCAR was built on brand loyalty.

If you are a Chevy owner/fan, you want to see any Chevy win (even if it isn't your driver) over a Ford or Toyota. It may not be as true today as it was in NASCAR's glory days when the catch phrase was "win on Sunday, sell on Monday," but there is still brand loyalty there.

Even though they are no longer "showroom model" cars, you can still recognize the bodytypes as what you see on the street - Camaro, Mustang, Camry. How many of those models are sold in international markets, and how many people in Europe are brand loyal to the manufacturer and the body style? F1 works because the cars are the same design and look and nothing like you see on the street, just manufacturer specific engines.

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PJinAtl

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Thanks for the response.

It's funny how other sports always want to expand, while NASCAR and F1 aggressively keep newcomers out.

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Let's go ahead and get playoff predictions out the way. I've got the following for the 16 spots.

Chastain
Larson
Keselowski
Busch
Elliott
Hamlin
Blaney
Buescher
Truex
Bell
Logano
Wallace
Byron
Reddick
Gibbs
Suarez

My next 5:
Bowman
McDowell
Stenhouse
Jones
Briscoe

Bowman has struggled to find consistency, and time will tell if he's healthy.

Both McDowell and Stenhouse lost prime opportunities in the schedule to win races. In McDowell's case, 2 races!

Jones and Legacy will make strides this year, but it may be a year early.

Briscoe will be the best Haas car this year. I don't think it will be enough.

Gibbs has too good of a car. The 4th Gibbs car is better than the 4th Hendrick car.

If Suarez can shake the bad luck, he will be fine. Far too often things out of his control wrecked his races. Getting taken out. Pit crew. Power Steering wrecked what would've been a top 8 playoff appearance in 22. He's gotta prove it. I think he does.

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Bowman is in too good of a call to be left out. He was injured last year and when he did come back, I don’t think he was completely 100%. I would add him

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I agree. Bowman seems slept on this preseason. No wins last year, but he started on pole at Daytona, had 5 top 10s in the first 6 races, and if I recall, he briefly had the points lead.

The points penalty after Richmond, and then obviously the injury, derailed everything. But if he's back to 100%, I could see him having a strong season.

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Berry would be my final pick. He takes over the best car in the SHR stable and has Childers as his crew chief.

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I like Berry, but I'm less optimistic about this, even with Childers.

Hearing Tony on Sirius XM get all defensive and say he's sick of getting blamed for everything gives little faith in any of SHR's teams right now.

Hamlin
Chase
Chastain
Bell
Blaney
Busch
Larson
Logano
Keselowski
Buescher
Berry
Byron
Reddick
Jones
Truex
Bowman