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re: 2024 Formula 1 season Thread
Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:56 am to Tornado Alley
Posted on 4/15/24 at 9:56 am to Tornado Alley
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What do we know about this circuit?
LONG Straights
Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:00 am to jefforize
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LONG Straights
I'm not sure who that benefits. But Lance Stroll finna complain.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:30 am to Tornado Alley
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What do we know about this circuit?
It's a Tilke track.
The layout was inspired by the Chinese character shang ? which is the first character in the city name Shanghai.
translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=es&text=%E4%B8%8A&op=translate
Posted on 4/15/24 at 10:55 am to Tornado Alley
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I'm not sure who that benefits. But Lance Stroll finna complain.
Ha.
Think Haas is fastest top speed.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:20 pm to s14suspense
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Think Haas is fastest top speed.
We think, therefore we are.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:42 pm to BuckyCheese
Someone correct me if I'm getting some of these facts wrong, but with the first sprint weekend coming up, I wanted to detail the new sprint weekend schedule.
First of all, in the first two years of sprints (2021-2022), there were just 3 sprint events per year. Starting in 2023 it was increased to 6 sprint events. In 2021, only the top three finishers got sprint points (3-2-1). Starting in 2022 the top eight finishers got points (8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1).
The schedule has changed. Previously, this was the schedule:
Friday
FP1
Grand Prix qualy
Parc ferme conditions
Saturday
Sprint race qualy
Sprint race
Sunday
Grand Prix
This year's sprint weekend schedule:
Friday
FP1
Sprint race qualy
Parc ferme conditions
Saturday
Sprint race
Setup changes allowed!
Grand Prix qualy
Parc ferme conditions
Sunday
Grand Prix
So there are two big changes. First, grand prix qualy has been moved to after the sprint race, and setup changes are allowed after the sprint race. So now you can gather much more data before locking in your setup for the main race, instead of having to figure it out after just one practice session. I don't know if the previous schedule was to try to create more chaos, but I'm sure the teams hated it.
First of all, in the first two years of sprints (2021-2022), there were just 3 sprint events per year. Starting in 2023 it was increased to 6 sprint events. In 2021, only the top three finishers got sprint points (3-2-1). Starting in 2022 the top eight finishers got points (8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1).
The schedule has changed. Previously, this was the schedule:
Friday
FP1
Grand Prix qualy
Parc ferme conditions
Saturday
Sprint race qualy
Sprint race
Sunday
Grand Prix
This year's sprint weekend schedule:
Friday
FP1
Sprint race qualy
Parc ferme conditions
Saturday
Sprint race
Setup changes allowed!
Grand Prix qualy
Parc ferme conditions
Sunday
Grand Prix
So there are two big changes. First, grand prix qualy has been moved to after the sprint race, and setup changes are allowed after the sprint race. So now you can gather much more data before locking in your setup for the main race, instead of having to figure it out after just one practice session. I don't know if the previous schedule was to try to create more chaos, but I'm sure the teams hated it.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:02 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Yet another former F1 driver is putting in his two cents over Danny Ric's struggles. This time it's three-time race winner Johnny Herbert, kind of the Sergio Perez of his day. Herbert has a bizarro theory that I don't think makes much sense.
Herbert thinks that the younger drivers' embrace of sims gives them an edge over the older drivers?
gpfans.com/us/f1-news/1018195/f1-daniel-ricciardo-johnny-herbert-key-reason-for-ricciardo-struggle/
Coming up on Shanghai, let's look at some facts:
1. Danny has raced in Shanghai eight times, and won one race.
2. Yuki has never raced there.
3. There is only one practice session before sprint qualy.
Given Danny's vast experience and previous mastery of the track, and the fact that there is just one practice session before the first qualy session, Danny should have a significant advantage for sprint qualy. Given Danny's qualy record so far this year, just qualifying ahead of Yuki will be seen as a "win," but for me, unless he has a significant gap (at least 0.3s I guess), it won't be very impressive. After the sprint race, I'm not sure what to expect, whether Danny "should" still have an experience advantage going into the main race qualy.
Herbert thinks that the younger drivers' embrace of sims gives them an edge over the older drivers?
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Discussing the similarities between champions Michael Schumacher and Max Verstappen, Herbert emphasised how important simulation work is to a modern F1 drivers’ performance.
"I remember Michael used to do a little bit of sim work at Ferrari. And he was quite sick when he was doing that. So he really suffered doing the sim work. When Max does it without problem whatsoever when he’s doing the Formula 1 sim. But also when he's doing his racing sims like Lando Norris as well. And it's a skill that has become a seventh sense in Formula 1. They’ve gotten better as time has gone by, but they are very, very much now an important part of a driver's feel with the car itself. Not a feel with your fingertips, but a feeling within your brain, your brain adapts to it without thinking about it.
“I think Daniel Ricciardo when he was with Lando at McLaren, for example, suffered, because Lando was the ‘sim man’. And Daniel wasn't. And I think that's where the struggle was.”
gpfans.com/us/f1-news/1018195/f1-daniel-ricciardo-johnny-herbert-key-reason-for-ricciardo-struggle/
Coming up on Shanghai, let's look at some facts:
1. Danny has raced in Shanghai eight times, and won one race.
2. Yuki has never raced there.
3. There is only one practice session before sprint qualy.
Given Danny's vast experience and previous mastery of the track, and the fact that there is just one practice session before the first qualy session, Danny should have a significant advantage for sprint qualy. Given Danny's qualy record so far this year, just qualifying ahead of Yuki will be seen as a "win," but for me, unless he has a significant gap (at least 0.3s I guess), it won't be very impressive. After the sprint race, I'm not sure what to expect, whether Danny "should" still have an experience advantage going into the main race qualy.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:29 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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unless he has a significant gap (at least 0.3s I guess), it won't be very impressive. After the sprint race, I'm not sure what to expect, whether Danny "should" still have an experience advantage going into the main race qualy.
This is the third race since I predicted 3 15+ finishes and he'd be out.
Like you mentioned, I think if he gets blown out by Zuki despite his experience at the track, we won't see him in Miami.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 4:35 pm to Lsut81
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Like you mentioned, I think if he gets blown out by Zuki despite his experience at the track, we won't see him in Miami.
If Yuki beats Danny this weekend, the snark will go through the roof. But because Danny is backed by Horner, I think he gets more races, maybe 8-12 total to show improvement. But for every consecutive race that Yuki beats him, the pressure to give the seat to Lawson will continue to mount.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 4:41 pm to BuckyCheese
Max is like Jokic in basketball. The best in the sport but just seems like he would much rather be doing something else.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:16 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I think he'll retire somewhat early from F1 and go race sports cars.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:18 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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But because Danny is backed by Horner, I think he gets more races, maybe 8-12 total to show improvement.
I know Horner has an inexplicable hard-on for Danny, but isn't Helmut in charge of drivers and determines who is getting what seat?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:45 pm to TigerFanatic99
Did anyone else notice that after the Ric/Albon accident when Max asked if they were ok GP said "Danny is out of the car" and didn't even mention Albon?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:33 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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don't know if the previous schedule was to try to create more chaos, but I'm sure the teams hated it.
Sprint weekends are the absolute worst!!
I hate that teams don't get a chance to sort their cars... sure, at tracks like Silverstone, it works out ok, but China this year???.... fricking Miami??? Really? fricking stupid!!!
F1 is determined to ruin their own sport... and dont get me started on Andretti
Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:59 am to TheArrogantCorndog
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:35 pm to Lsut81
F1 2023 was the free game of the month for March on PlayStation. I haven’t played it a ton, but I have enjoyed firing it up the week of a race to get familiar with the tracks. I think it has made the races more interesting.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:34 pm to MississippiLebowski
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I haven’t played it a ton, but I have enjoyed firing it up the week of a race to get familiar with the tracks. I think it has made the races more interesting.
Online sim racing has greatly enhanced my understanding of the tracks and which ones have a good rhythm to them. I haven't driven any sims in a while so I don't know the newest tracks, but I know most of the classic tracks.
My single favorite corner in all of F1 is probably Copse, and my favorite series of corners is Copse, Maggots, and Becketts.
During the last race at Suzuka, Sargeant went off on the second Degner curve. I've done that plenty of times, and I've even seen a really good sim racer go off there. I find the Degner curves to be one of the toughest complexes to get just right, so I was pretty sympathetic to Sargeant.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:39 pm to Lsut81
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Like you mentioned, I think if he gets blown out by Zuki despite his experience at the track, we won't see him in Miami.
I agree that if Danny Ric is outperformed this weekend, and puts on a bad performance, he needs to go.
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