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re: 2023 Formula 1 season Thread
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:36 am to fightin tigers
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:36 am to fightin tigers
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Should have never bolted off without Checo really, but that is something the team should have handled a lot earlier if their goal was 1/2 finish. .
He bolted off when leclerc was in 2nd and checo 3rd. He didn't want leclerc getting any help from him. Once checo passed leclerc he dropped back to give checo help.
He did everything he could to help Checo in that situation, Checo just blew it back taking the wrong line and letting Leclerc through.
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:41 am to Hermit Crab
Checo guaranteed himself 2nd place in championship. But getting passed by “inferior” cars on final lap 2 races in a row is a bad look. And his car didnt have a broken wing like max.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:46 am to fightin tigers
The team asked him to slow to 2.5 seconds in front of Checo…not in drs range.
He would have been playing with fire with chuck right there.
He would have been playing with fire with chuck right there.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:56 am to Hermit Crab
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He did everything he could to help Checo in that situation, Checo just blew it back taking the wrong line and letting Leclerc through.
Ding ding ding, Checo even said himself that he didn’t expect Leclerc to be there. He doesn’t fall asleep and defends the inside line and he’s 2nd.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:36 pm to Hermit Crab
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He bolted off when leclerc was in 2nd and checo 3rd.
Certainly not.
Increased his lead to almost 5 seconds until he was asked to go back to 2.5 and give Checo the tow.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 2:52 pm to fightin tigers
AlphaTauri is ready to unveil their new identity. The F1 entry list has to be finalized early December so we'll find out in the next couple of weeks.
The full official name is going to incorporate the names of two American sponsors. So no "BOSS" title sponsorship.
They also want to return to a generic team name like "Toro Rosso" instead of the name of the title sponsor like "AlphaTauri".
quote:
“The identity will be generic,” Bayer told Motorsport.com. “The identity is what Toro Rosso would have been, and it’s moving closer to the Red Bull family again. But then it will appear with the naming rights partners. "We will change the company name, we will change identity, logo, everything, a complete relaunch, complete rebrand.
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Bayer said that the team’s profile in the United States, clearly helped by the presence of Drive to Survive star Daniel Ricciardo, has played an important role in attracting new backing.
“We're on a good trajectory,” he said. “And because we have such good traction in the US at the moment, we found these two companies who like each other.
This makes sense, and it's funny because Danny wants to get to Red Bull soon, and it sounds like Horner would like for that to happen as well—but if the sponsors are on board because of Danny's popularity, then it sounds like he's staying put!
motorsport.com/f1/news/alphatauri-ready-to-announce-new-f1-name-for-2024-as-us-sponsors-join/10549856/
For reference, here are the currrent official team names:
Oracle Red Bull Racing
Mercedes-AMG PETRONAS F1 Team
Scuderia Ferrari
McLaren Formula 1 Team
Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant F1 Team
BWT Alpine F1 Team
Williams Racing
Scuderia AlphaTauri
Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake
MoneyGram Haas F1 Team
Some full team names don't incorporate any sponsors: Ferrari, McLaren, Williams.
Some teams have completely lost their team identity to sponsors: Stroll/Racing Point (Aston Martin), Toro Rosso (AlphaTauri), Sauber (Alfa Romeo). Not sure if Alpine fits this category since it's a brand of Renault.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 11/21/23 at 3:04 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
And we get Sauber back next year.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 3:07 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Would be funny if Netflix was one of the sponsors
Posted on 11/21/23 at 3:30 pm to Cosmo
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Would be funny if Netflix was one of the sponsors
That's a pretty reasonable guess! They are a worldwide brand so from that perspective it's a fit.
Plus, they are always looking for a reason to boost monthly fees. Title sponsorship is expensive!
Posted on 11/21/23 at 6:38 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
I wonder how much a title sponsorship costs. I could see the company I work for doing this depending on how many million.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 6:50 pm to TigerFanatic99
It’s a lot.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:34 pm to VABuckeye
Oracle deal with Red Bull was 500 mill over 5 years. I believe that’s the most expensive sponsorship deal.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:07 pm to 1999
I’d be interested to see the ROI on that deal. I don’t have the details in front of me but believe the Petronas deal with Merc/AMG is in a similar ball park but a longer term.
Would have loved to know what Marlboro was paying back on the day for McLaren/Ferrari.
Would have loved to know what Marlboro was paying back on the day for McLaren/Ferrari.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:51 pm to Rendevoustavern
Strikes me for a company like Oracle it's not the best avenue. I would expect the most bang for the buck from brands that are mostly consumer goods.
No tech executive looking for their database upgrade is going to pick Oracle because they saw their name on the side of an F1 car. But, a consumer brand like Harman Kardon would likely sell a few more bt speakers and headphones with JBL blazoned the side of a McLaren car.
No tech executive looking for their database upgrade is going to pick Oracle because they saw their name on the side of an F1 car. But, a consumer brand like Harman Kardon would likely sell a few more bt speakers and headphones with JBL blazoned the side of a McLaren car.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:10 pm to Rendevoustavern
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I’d be interested to see the ROI on that deal. I don’t have the details in front of me but believe the Petronas deal with Merc/AMG is in a similar ball park but a longer term. Would have loved to know what Marlboro was paying back on the day for McLaren/Ferrari
The tobacco sponsors used to throw the cash around. Benson and Hedges went ahead and paid Damon Hill’s salary when he was at Jordan.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:16 am to XenScott
Good Value Brand Racing 
Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:42 am to BottomlandBrew
shite, I didn't realize until this morning that the race is this weekend.
I thought it was first weekend of December
I thought it was first weekend of December
Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:50 am to Rendevoustavern
quote:in the neighborhood of $100m
Would have loved to know what Marlboro was paying back on the day for McLaren/Ferrari.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:03 am to Lsut81
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shite, I didn't realize until this morning that the race is this weekend.
I just realized that yesterday. Kind of amazing they can get from Vegas to the ME in a week.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:19 am to BottomlandBrew
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Kind of amazing they can get from Vegas to the ME in a week.
Yup, but the logistics of F1 are amazing as is.
At least don't have to wait an extra week for the drama to unfold. Have a feeling RB will announce Checo departure sometime next week.
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