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Posted on 11/12/23 at 7:18 pm to
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 7:18 pm to
Do we expect a lot of passing or a parade on Saturday?
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 7:46 pm to
I always expect a parade.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:25 am to
Long straight following a relatively low speed non aero dependent complex going in to a tight braking zone guarantees a passing zone with DRS.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:30 am to
Great question. Curious to hear some thoughts.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83713 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Do we expect a lot of passing or a parade on Saturday?



From looking at the track, and playing it on the PS5 , the only place to really pass is the long straight down Las Vegas BLVD.

You have some chance just outside of the first few turns, but its relatively short.
Posted by 40 Rouge
The Wasatch Back
Member since Feb 2009
2710 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:35 am to
The few realistic passing zones plus the cold temps and the Pirelli's terrible performance when not at optimal temps will surely result in some crashes.

Drivers complain about those Pirelli's during perfect weather already. The tires in Vegas will never get right.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29283 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Curious to hear some thoughts.


Albon podium.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28444 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 2:37 pm to
Thoughts?

Max out with an engine failure DNF.
Alonso has to retire the car.
Checo wins.
Lando always the bridesmaid and finishes second.
Stroll podium and rocketpoweredmohawk has a stroke.
Poor LeClerc and Sainz finish 4-5.
Mercedes eats tires and finishes 6 and 8 with Danny Ric sandwiched between them.
Sargeant at 9 cuz wut tha frick is a kilometer?
Yuki at 10 for a double points day for AT.

HOW BOUH DAH?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76413 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 2:55 pm to
I'm saying max, lando, lewis, piastri, george, perez.

Ferrari double dnf.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

Ferrari double dnf.


Why you gotta do me like that?
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34728 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 4:49 pm to
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Such a cluster... Like he said, I think people were excited at the prospect of this at first, but it is a huge clusterfrick.

Don't see how the businesses or locals go for this after this year. Imagine there will be uproar to cancel go forward.


I know people are complaining, but isn't this what every city that hosts a road race goes through? What makes Vegas so different?
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
2097 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 4:51 pm to
My prediction is max wins by a lot.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16471 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:00 pm to
color highlights of 1955 Monaco GP featuring the Mercedes of Fangio and Moss.

Fangio led half the race until his car died but moss was faster in 2nd. Fangio was the same age as Alonso but looked like a retired plumber walking around in the pits

This was also Alberto Ascaris last race but he made it memorable by blasting through the chicane and into the Med while leading. He would die 3 days later at Monza at the age of 36.

quote:

On 26 May, he went to Monza to watch his friend Eugenio Castellotti test a Ferrari 750 Monza sports car. They were to co-drive the car in the 1000 km Monza race, having been given special dispensation by Lancia. Ascari was not supposed to drive that day but decided to try a few laps. In his jacket and tie, shirt sleeves, ordinary trousers and Castellotti's white helmet he set off.[3][4][17] As he emerged from a fast curve on the third lap the car inexplicably skidded, turned on its nose and somersaulted twice. Thrown out onto the track, Ascari suffered multiple injuries and died a few minutes later.[3][4][26] The crash occurred on the Curva del Vialone, one of the track's challenging high-speed corners. The corner where the accident happened, renamed in his honour, has been subsequently replaced with a chicane, now called Variante Ascari.[26]


Teams were not limited to two cars until the mid 80s. Crazy seeing Lancia and Ferrari with so many cars on the grid
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 6:07 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:00 pm to
Hulk will be running the old aero package on the Haas.

With no high speed corners this track isn't going to be shite for developing the setup either. But, the OG Haas is pretty good in low speed and has good top end.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83713 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:39 pm to
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but isn't this what every city that hosts a road race goes through? What makes Vegas so different?



Bc the business of vegas is tourism... Nearly 40m people a year visit.

Compare that to 2m for Singapore, 7m for Monaco, 800k for Baku... What other street courses am I forgetting?


The construction has been going on for 6 months, shutting down all major roadways around the strip and even the strip itself, shutting down attractions, etc..
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7202 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:48 pm to
Have to say though that they had some overhead shots during Sunday Night Football last night with the paddock and parts of the track lit up and it's stunning visually.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83713 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:52 pm to
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parts of the track lit up and it's stunning visually.


Oh yeah, its going to be visually sexy depending on the angle... I'm sure they will blackout all of the gas stations and crack house businesses on the back side.

The area where they had to build the temporary bridge for cars to get into the area once they block off the track is skid row esque
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45716 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:52 pm to
Jeddah and Melbourne
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129474 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

Don't see how the businesses or locals go for this after this year. Imagine there will be uproar to cancel go forward.


Locals dont go to that area often. Doubt they will notice that much
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 8:45 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34728 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 6:52 am to
I have another stupid question. Why are they doing this race in the middle of the night and not a normal local times lot like COTA was?
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