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Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:46 pm to
My guess is the car has been developed more for max as the year has progressed. RBR is well ahead in the constructors, and checo still has a year left on his contract. Realistically I don’t see any changes this year.
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 10:35 pm to
Geez, George.

Posted by 1999
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:16 am to
quote:

?? | Daniel Ricciardo is the favourite to replace De Vries at AlphaTauri mid-season, according to f1-insider.com. In the scenario, Tsunoda and Ricciardo's performances would be compared.
Posted by 225rumpshaker
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:19 am to
I’m sad we haven’t had more yuki random meltdowns during the broadcast
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:50 am to
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They aren't replacing the #2 in the drivers championship without someone much better in the wings.


Albon looks like one of the best drivers on the grid right now. He's bound to get some interest from RB or Ferrari.

I think Aston Martin has come back down to reality and this is probably more of what they are going forward. I don't think they have a shot at a #2 finish and probably tops #4.

Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:55 am to
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Albon looks like one of the best drivers on the grid right now.


He really does
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:57 am to
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Albon looks like one of the best drivers on the grid right now. He's bound to get some interest from RB or Ferrari.

I think Aston Martin has come back down to reality and this is probably more of what they are going forward. I don't think they have a shot at a #2 finish and probably tops #4.


Crofty said yesterday the AM car wasn't great at Silverstone or Catalunya, but was expected to be better at the Hungaroring.

Anyone here with any knowledge why?
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 11:03 am to
It's a high downforce track.
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 11:06 am to
ELI5, please.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 11:54 am to
he is also feasting on having a weak teammate in sarge.
Posted by TexasTiger33
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 11:57 am to
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Albon looks like one of the best drivers on the grid right now. He's bound to get some interest from RB or Ferrari.
He is quietly having an excellent season. Glad he is out of the Red Bull system. Williams is on the rise.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 12:16 pm to
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ELI5, please.
Silverstone us more wide open, faster

Hungaroring has much more slowed turns. I think it's called something like Monaco without the yachts.

I can't speak to the specific technical reasons but I'd assume AM just does better at these tracks compared to the faster tracks.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 12:22 pm to
Marko said Albon is under contract through '25, iirc. Not that F1 contracts mean much, but they'd have to really want him. I'm also selfish in that I like him at Williams.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 12:35 pm to
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think it's called something like Monaco without the yachts.


Monaco without the walls.

To give an idea, Ocon held on to a win here (2021) despite being a much slower car. Same race Max was able to recover several laps with half his car missing.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:15 pm to
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Daniel Ricciardo is the favourite to replace De Vries at AlphaTauri mid-season, according to f1-insider.com. In the scenario, Tsunoda and Ricciardo's performances would be compared.

I really like this idea. I usually want any rookie to be given a full season to get it together, but the lack of support from Helmut is very telling. Red Bull has many decisions to make regarding Perez, Ricciardo, Yuki, de Vries, and probably Alex Palou. If they replace de Vries with Ricciardo at the break, they will get a much better sense of where Danny and Yuki are, and whether one might be able to replace Perez next year. This might help them decide to put Palou in the AlphaTauri next year. They're probably too risk averse to put Palou directly in the Red Bull. The one thing I hope they don't do, is keep Perez at Red Bull next year. Give someone else a chance to prove himself in great machinery!
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:30 pm to
Palou isn't even in the Red Bull program. Not saying he won't be signed, but they have Lawson ahead of Palou to think about.

Lawson may technically be "ahead" of RIC.
This post was edited on 7/10/23 at 1:31 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:36 pm to
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He is quietly having an excellent season. Glad he is out of the Red Bull system. Williams is on the rise.


I hope Williams is on the rise, but I'm not really putting much faith into that. He's been pretty impressive here lately especially considering they said it's not a very easy car to drive.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:06 pm to
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I usually want any rookie to be given a full season to get it together, but the lack of support from Helmut is very telling.

The fact that De Vries at 28 is older than the majority of drivers probably isn't working in his favor.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:45 pm to
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The fact that De Vries at 28 is older than the majority of drivers probably isn't working in his favor.




A lack of consistency has pretty much been his MO at every stop.

He just doesn't have the chops
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:55 pm to
I still chuckle about this;

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