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Posted on 5/12/22 at 5:38 am to Lima Whiskey
I don’t think they will.
I just meant some hot girlfriends or wives or models or something other than men’s muscles and buttocks.
The Miami GP had Danny and Lando prancing around in mid-riff shirts for goodness sake.
I just meant some hot girlfriends or wives or models or something other than men’s muscles and buttocks.
The Miami GP had Danny and Lando prancing around in mid-riff shirts for goodness sake.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 5:39 am
Posted on 5/12/22 at 10:26 am to weagle99
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I just meant some hot girlfriends
Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:46 am to Lima Whiskey
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Women will never be competitive drivers.
I'd be interested in your reasoning behind this. I see nothing that says a woman can't be competitive.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:50 am to BottomlandBrew
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I'd be interested in your reasoning behind this. I see nothing that says a woman can't be competitive.
Just going to ignore 100+ years of racing history?
Max was pretty wiped out after the race;
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 11:58 am
Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:00 pm to BuckyCheese
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Just going to ignore 100+ years of racing history?
Because women had fair shots the entire 100+ years of racing history.
F1 drivers aren't exactly built like brick houses. If anything it requires more lower body strength than upper body with braking and women naturally have stronger lower bodies than upper bodies relative to their strength comparison to men.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:10 pm to BottomlandBrew
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I'd be interested in your reasoning behind this. I see nothing that says a woman can't be competitive.
Yup. It can't be compared to other sports. Like everyone loves to point out, Serena couldn't beat the top 200 or top 1000 men or whatever. But women drivers are already racing against men. Simona de Silvestro is not a great driver but she has competed in multiple series and she's in the mix. I remember very clearly an IndyCar race on a street course where she was aggressively trying to get on the podium, pressuring the guy in P3 lap after lap (and the camera stayed with them). She didn't pull it off (finishing P4) but she had the strength and fitness to be there at the end. While F1 is harder on the neck and has astonishing braking power, IndyCar famously has much heavier steering because they don't have power steering like F1. So it's a tougher upper-body workout. If a woman can handle that, she can handle an F1 car. Finding a great woman racer is going to be hard because there is more than an order of magnitude more men drivers, not because of physical/mental limitations. Another indication that women are capable is the existence of women fighter pilots. Heavy g-loads, quick reaction time, heavy mental loads, etc.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:14 pm to barry
It isn't about strength.
It's eye/hand coordination, cat quick reflexes and the ability to feel, and understand, what the car is doing.
Women have competed in motorsports for decades. None have been particularly successful beyond getting a lot of publicity.
Frankly, name a sport/competition where women are consistently as good as men. I can't think of one. (That one dude will bring up drag racing. A monkey can drag race. Little talent there.)
Hell, even pool, which requires no athleticism, is ruled by men. The notable female competitors stand no chance against men.
That actually makes me chuckle a bit because a local team of women travel over 3 or 4 states playing, and winning, women's pool tourneys. I've never lost a game to any of them and I am no pro. And only play pick up games at the saloon, with a bar cue, while they practice quite often.
Put the top W series driver in a F1 car and she'll make Mazepin look like Senna.
It's eye/hand coordination, cat quick reflexes and the ability to feel, and understand, what the car is doing.
Women have competed in motorsports for decades. None have been particularly successful beyond getting a lot of publicity.
Frankly, name a sport/competition where women are consistently as good as men. I can't think of one. (That one dude will bring up drag racing. A monkey can drag race. Little talent there.)
Hell, even pool, which requires no athleticism, is ruled by men. The notable female competitors stand no chance against men.
That actually makes me chuckle a bit because a local team of women travel over 3 or 4 states playing, and winning, women's pool tourneys. I've never lost a game to any of them and I am no pro. And only play pick up games at the saloon, with a bar cue, while they practice quite often.
Put the top W series driver in a F1 car and she'll make Mazepin look like Senna.
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:19 pm to BuckyCheese
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It's eye/hand coordination, cat quick reflexes and the ability to feel, and understand, what the car is doing.
And what part of the biological difference between men and women is preventing them from competing in those attributes?
Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:25 pm to barry
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And what part of the biological difference between men and women is preventing them from competing in those attributes?
How about you show where there isn't a difference. You're the one arguing against decades upon decades of proof.
Ever heard of Denise McCluggage? Janet Guthrie? Patty Moise?
According to Wiki 124 women have raced in Nascar sanctioned races. None have or are burning up the track.
Yet a woman will be competitive in F1.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:31 pm to BuckyCheese
How many black guys were competitive in F1 till Lewis Hamilton became the most successful driver in F1 history?
You are confusing correlation with causation
Decades of proof? You are talking about an instance in which there were likely 1000:1 men to women trying to get into stock racing and using that as causation on why women couldn't be competitive race car drivers.
You are confusing correlation with causation
Decades of proof? You are talking about an instance in which there were likely 1000:1 men to women trying to get into stock racing and using that as causation on why women couldn't be competitive race car drivers.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:40 pm to barry
So you don't know who those women are.
I'm not confusing anything. And you have failed to show that there is no difference between the genders when behind the wheel while there is a mountain of evidence that says otherwise.
Prove your point.
Your racism comparison is laughable btw. Stick to the question.
eta-Jamie Chadwick is considered the best female driver in Europe it seems. Here is what she did when driving for the Prema team, which is considered one of, if not the top, junior team.
On 16 June 2020, following the cancellation of the 2020 W Series season due to the COVID-19 pandemic, it was announced that she had joined Italian outfit Prema Powerteam, to be one of the team's four drivers in the 2020 Formula Regional European Championship.[34] Despite being the most experienced driver in the field, she only managed 9th in the standings, 263 points behind her nearest teammate and adding one Super Licence point to her total.[35]
I'm not confusing anything. And you have failed to show that there is no difference between the genders when behind the wheel while there is a mountain of evidence that says otherwise.
Prove your point.
Your racism comparison is laughable btw. Stick to the question.
eta-Jamie Chadwick is considered the best female driver in Europe it seems. Here is what she did when driving for the Prema team, which is considered one of, if not the top, junior team.
On 16 June 2020, following the cancellation of the 2020 W Series season due to the COVID-19 pandemic, it was announced that she had joined Italian outfit Prema Powerteam, to be one of the team's four drivers in the 2020 Formula Regional European Championship.[34] Despite being the most experienced driver in the field, she only managed 9th in the standings, 263 points behind her nearest teammate and adding one Super Licence point to her total.[35]
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:53 pm to BuckyCheese
You're confusing gender vs opportunity. The opportunity is tied to a gender unfortunately. The gender itself is not the limiting factor. Women are getting more opportunities to race and it's becoming more socially acceptable so women in the sport will continue to increase. How that's understood is beyond me.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:57 pm to TheNolaClap
Scroll up and look at what I added.
You can put 1 million women into race cars, train them for 15 years, and not one will be competitive with Max, Chuck, or even Mag.
At this point I'm laughing at how you guys have been programmed.
You can put 1 million women into race cars, train them for 15 years, and not one will be competitive with Max, Chuck, or even Mag.
At this point I'm laughing at how you guys have been programmed.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 5/12/22 at 1:01 pm to TheNolaClap
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You're confusing gender vs opportunity.
No, I'm not.
You are refusing to prove your point with evidence. Because there is zero evidence to support your position.
So, deflect by saying I'm not looking at it correctly.
Comical.
eta;
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OTTAWA (CP) – Women use more of their brains than men when it comes to driving a car, using a computer mouse or performing other visually guided actions, says a new study that suggests stroke victims should have different rehabilitation programs depending on their gender.
The way your brain “fires” in the split second before doing tasks that require eye-hand co-ordination depends on whether you’re a man or a woman, says Lauren Sergio, a York University professor and co-author of the study.
The study found that for females, areas in both the left and right sides of the brain were active during eye-hand co-ordination experiments. That occurred for men only when they were planning their most complex task: moving a cursor on a screen in the opposite direction to the one expected, using a joystick.
“We found that in females, there were three major brain areas involved in visually guided movement and they showed activity on both sides of the brain in most of the exercises in the study,” Sergio said in an interview.
“In contrast, male brains lit up on both sides only for the most complex exercise.”
https://www.redorbit.com/news/health/899301/brain_study_finds_malefemale_differences_in_eyehand_coordination/
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 5/12/22 at 1:03 pm to BuckyCheese
This has to be a troll.
Experience for within a very small number of women with the opportunity does nothing. That's like saying take the best out of 5 women and then the best out of 5,000 men and it should be equal. A larger pool for the best to rise out of will produce better talent.
Experience is not the same as talent.
Experience for within a very small number of women with the opportunity does nothing. That's like saying take the best out of 5 women and then the best out of 5,000 men and it should be equal. A larger pool for the best to rise out of will produce better talent.
Experience is not the same as talent.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 1:04 pm to TheNolaClap
How old are you? Will probably explain a lot.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 1:09 pm to TheNolaClap
It would be cool to see some of the upper W Series drivers eventually transition up to Formula 2.
We got to see Jamie Chadwick race at COTA last year and she's pretty much been running that series.
We got to see Jamie Chadwick race at COTA last year and she's pretty much been running that series.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 1:10 pm to BuckyCheese
More science for those that have been taught the sexes are equal in everything;
quote:https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-68069-0
n a large group of human participants (N?=?127), we investigated sex differences in a visuo-oculo-manual motor task that consists of tracking with the hand a target moving unpredictably. We report a clear male advantage in hand tracking accuracy. We tested whether men and women employ different gaze strategy or hand movement kinematics. Results show no key difference in these distinct visuomotor components. However, highly consistent differences in eye-hand coordination were evidenced by a larger temporal lag between hand motion and target motion in women. This observation echoes with other studies showing a male advantage in manual reaction time to visual stimuli. We propose that the male advantage for visuomotor tracking does not reside in a more reliable gaze strategy, or in more sophisticated hand movements, but rather in a faster decisional process linking visual information about target motion with forthcoming hand, but not eye, actions.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 5/12/22 at 1:12 pm to YOURADHERE
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It would be cool to see some of the upper W Series drivers eventually transition up to Formula 2.
We got to see Jamie Chadwick race at COTA last year and she's pretty much been running that series.
They'll get destroyed.
See above where I posted how Chadwick did with the top team in FREC. A distant 4th out of four teammates in equal cars and 9th in the overall standings.
I've now posted direct evidence, and can post plenty more, along with scientific evidence.
Just waiting for the naysayers to chastise me for "Not looking at it the right way."
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 1:16 pm
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