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re: 2022 Formula 1 Season Thread
Posted on 5/12/22 at 1:54 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 5/12/22 at 1:54 pm to BuckyCheese
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OTTAWA (CP) – Women use more of their brains than men when it comes to driving a car, using a computer mouse or performing other visually guided actions, says a new study that suggests stroke victims should have different rehabilitation programs depending on their gender.
The way your brain “fires” in the split second before doing tasks that require eye-hand co-ordination depends on whether you’re a man or a woman, says Lauren Sergio, a York University professor and co-author of the study.
The study found that for females, areas in both the left and right sides of the brain were active during eye-hand co-ordination experiments. That occurred for men only when they were planning their most complex task: moving a cursor on a screen in the opposite direction to the one expected, using a joystick.
“We found that in females, there were three major brain areas involved in visually guided movement and they showed activity on both sides of the brain in most of the exercises in the study,” Sergio said in an interview.
“In contrast, male brains lit up on both sides only for the most complex exercise.”
So females need to use more of their brains than men for simple tasks! Got it! Thanks!
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 2:47 pm to BuckyCheese
Admittedly I hadn't seen her previous results.
This reminds me of the Carmen Jorda at Lotus saga. Matthew Carter gave some pretty good insight on Missed Apex a while back when they both were at Lotus. That she was 100% brought on as a development driver because she was good to look at.
She apparently would tell people she was about 1-2 seconds off Grojean's pace in the sim, but it was more like 12-15 seconds per lap.
Because I know the rules
This reminds me of the Carmen Jorda at Lotus saga. Matthew Carter gave some pretty good insight on Missed Apex a while back when they both were at Lotus. That she was 100% brought on as a development driver because she was good to look at.
She apparently would tell people she was about 1-2 seconds off Grojean's pace in the sim, but it was more like 12-15 seconds per lap.
Because I know the rules
Posted on 5/12/22 at 2:57 pm to YOURADHERE
The whole argument skews the lines of ability/opportunity/desire.
Bucky got mad when I brought up Force because she had all three (her sister's didn't) and she won against men in a top level motorsport league.
If men were unequivocally better with no exception then Force wouldn't have won. She didn't have any advantage because she was a woman.
Bucky got mad when I brought up Force because she had all three (her sister's didn't) and she won against men in a top level motorsport league.
If men were unequivocally better with no exception then Force wouldn't have won. She didn't have any advantage because she was a woman.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:19 pm to fightin tigers
I didn't get mad. I was laughing at bringing Courtney Force, or ANY drag racer, in as an example of a great driver.
You do know they tune the reaction time of the cars, right? All the driver has to do is be consistent off the line. The crew chief adjusts how quick the car reacts to the throttle input. Or clutch release in the non fuel categories. The driver hangs on and steers.
And we'll just ignore the fact drag racing is the most vehicle dependent form of racing when it comes to wins. It's common for the cars to run multiple passes within hundredths of a second. That's all machine, not driver.
btw-Courtney is probably lighter than any of the male drivers. That IS an advantage. But certainly not a talent.
Just ignore the science I posted while believing grrrrrl power. If a woman driver had the ability to win she would have the pick of seats in todays PC climate as sponsors would tear down the door.
The fact there are few, all backmarkers, in series that actually require using the brakes and turning the wheel tells you all you need to know.
You do know they tune the reaction time of the cars, right? All the driver has to do is be consistent off the line. The crew chief adjusts how quick the car reacts to the throttle input. Or clutch release in the non fuel categories. The driver hangs on and steers.
And we'll just ignore the fact drag racing is the most vehicle dependent form of racing when it comes to wins. It's common for the cars to run multiple passes within hundredths of a second. That's all machine, not driver.
btw-Courtney is probably lighter than any of the male drivers. That IS an advantage. But certainly not a talent.
Just ignore the science I posted while believing grrrrrl power. If a woman driver had the ability to win she would have the pick of seats in todays PC climate as sponsors would tear down the door.
The fact there are few, all backmarkers, in series that actually require using the brakes and turning the wheel tells you all you need to know.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:28 pm to BuckyCheese
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Bernie when he uttered "women should be dressed in white, like all the other domestic appliances".
I laughed. Try using that line today and see how many people you actually trigger.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:52 pm to BuckyCheese
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More science for those that have been taught the sexes are equal in everything;
I'm not saying they are equal. I'm saying I don't see anything in F1 racing that a man can do that a woman cannot do. Is it a demanding sport. Yes? Is it physically insurmountable for a woman? No.
Michele Mouton was competitive in Group B, and those cars were the baddest of the bad. Hand/eye coordination, quick reactions, and knowing a car - You die in Group B without those things. She also won Pikes Peak.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:55 pm to weagle99
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I just meant some hot girlfriends or wives or models or something other than men’s muscles and buttocks
I knew what you wanted but decided to nourish your brain instead of your loins, the latter I care much less about.
I figured I would prepare you for a once in a lifetime trivia question.
I remember her name by associating it with Claudio Lombardi the father of the legendary Ferrari 12 cylinders.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 4:04 pm to BottomlandBrew
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I'm saying I don't see anything in F1 racing that a man can do that a woman cannot do.
Drive a car around the track? Sure, can probably do that.
Do it in a competitive time? No, due to the science.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 4:12 pm to barry
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Because women had fair shots the entire 100+ years of racing history.
As you mentioned there are probably 1000 boys that go into racing for every 1 girl.
We talked about this earlier in the thread. I think F1 is one of the least likely series for them to shine simply due to it being more physical than a lot of other series. But someone like Sabine Schmitz was not likely a prodigy she was made. Thousands and thousands of reps from a young age made here into a solid racing driver. If the same number of girls went into racing as boys and shrugged the societal norms as they got older you would have some great women drivers in some series.
Lombardi is just a trivia answer in most respects but she beat out dozens of men for the seat and was better than other drivers on the grid. She wasn't Lauda or Hunt but she could wrestle a mid-70s F1 car around the circuit faster than 99.999% of the population.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:26 pm to Obtuse1
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Obtuse1
Posted on 5/13/22 at 12:58 am to Obtuse1
McLaren shorted Danny on drink during the Miami GP because the car is heavy. Macca needs to get back to clubbing baby seals and sacrificing goats instead of trying to kill their drivers.
Seriously though in a sport where they are cracking down on the tenous (but I think acceptable) no-bling rule they need to do something about shorting drivers on liquid. Require the drink to be included in the driver weight minimum and increase it if they have to but having teams restrict driver's liquids, especially in a race like Miami that multiple drivers said was brutal due to temps is dangerous. I am not so much concerned about them having direct medical issues as they are all in top shape but I assume everyone here has been working outside in the heat and got that brain fog. Not really much of an issue when digging a hole or cleaning out beds but driving an F1 car at speed requires maximum focus even for these guys.
Motorsport
Seriously though in a sport where they are cracking down on the tenous (but I think acceptable) no-bling rule they need to do something about shorting drivers on liquid. Require the drink to be included in the driver weight minimum and increase it if they have to but having teams restrict driver's liquids, especially in a race like Miami that multiple drivers said was brutal due to temps is dangerous. I am not so much concerned about them having direct medical issues as they are all in top shape but I assume everyone here has been working outside in the heat and got that brain fog. Not really much of an issue when digging a hole or cleaning out beds but driving an F1 car at speed requires maximum focus even for these guys.
Motorsport
Posted on 5/13/22 at 12:59 am to YOURADHERE
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This reminds me of the Carmen Jorda at Lotus saga.
Here's what Jorda had to say about women competing in F1;
In April 2015, Jordá spoke out in favour of a separate championship for women, saying: "It's not fair that women have to compete in the same championship as men, because we're never going to become World Champion, and I think women deserve that chance."
Even the women agree with me.
Posted on 5/13/22 at 1:02 am to Obtuse1
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a race like Miami that multiple drivers said was brutal due to temps
May have had something to do with the relative shitshow of errors after the SC.
Mags said it was the toughest race he had ever run.
Posted on 5/13/22 at 2:42 am to Obtuse1
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in a race like Miami that multiple drivers said was brutal due to temps is dangerous.
maybe not go to Miami and race during May?
Posted on 5/13/22 at 5:22 am to BuckyCheese
So now you trust Jorda's opinion? You think she was an exceptional female driver and not just a pretty marketing piece?
This post was edited on 5/13/22 at 5:41 am
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:23 am to fightin tigers
I trust her opinion on women's chances in F1 more than a bunch of guys that have never driven an open wheeler. Yes, I do.
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:36 am to BuckyCheese
Ferrari doing a film day, otherwise known as a 100km test, at Monza and it appears they may have a new sidepod shape.
This post was edited on 5/13/22 at 7:37 am
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:43 am to BuckyCheese
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"Numbers," Coulthard said. "For so long, it's been a purely numbers issue. If you take, let's say, 1,000 karters competing at a junior level, for so long one or two of those have been girls. When only five of those 1,000 make it to a junior racing series, and only one of those maybe makes it to Formula One, the chance of it being one of those two girls is slim. So that's why, as great as W Series has been, the real change has to be at the grassroots level.
"Opportunity is key, too. We'll never know how many women were talented enough to have a shot at Formula One but didn't have a chance to make it to F1. That's true of a lot of racing drivers in general -- the opportunity, the money, timing, it all has to play a part."
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:52 am to fightin tigers
Women do not have equivalent hand eye coordination. Has been studied and proven.
Just keep ignoring the science.
And using the same numbers game, a tiny percentage of males get into carting. The likelihood of there being a guy out there that could put Max on the trailer consistently is very high. Thing is, that guy never bothered trying racing.
And frankly at this point I am tired of the convo. I prefer reality and the tech. You're not changing my mind and your programming is more than I want to bother with.
Just keep ignoring the science.
And using the same numbers game, a tiny percentage of males get into carting. The likelihood of there being a guy out there that could put Max on the trailer consistently is very high. Thing is, that guy never bothered trying racing.
And frankly at this point I am tired of the convo. I prefer reality and the tech. You're not changing my mind and your programming is more than I want to bother with.
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:58 am to BuckyCheese
One last question, to tie all this together.
Is there any hand eye (or foot/eye) coordination needed in drag racing?
Also, I don't think anyone is saying that men/women have the same odds (1:1000000) of being able to make it, just that it isn't some crazy unattainable idea.
Is there any hand eye (or foot/eye) coordination needed in drag racing?
Also, I don't think anyone is saying that men/women have the same odds (1:1000000) of being able to make it, just that it isn't some crazy unattainable idea.
This post was edited on 5/13/22 at 8:03 am
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