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Why is the price of oil going up?

Posted on 4/6/10 at 9:54 am
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 9:54 am
Is it just that summer is approaching or do you think something else is going on? Of course, there are probably many reasons, but what are your theories?
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 10:32 am to
For what it is worth, I heard on the radio yesterday that it has NOTHING to do with supply/demand BUT that it is speculators ... this is NOT me saying this but repeating what I heard to answer your question.

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Posted by Bard
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 10:44 am to
If this is another speculation run, it's a good time to buy futures as the summer run-up hasn't started yet.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 10:48 am to
My money is on
quote:

speculators
While they go kicking and screaming that it isnt them the proof is in the pudding. When gas prices fell from the stupid high prices a couple of years ago it has nothing to do with supply/demand. The stock market tanked.

Posted by Bard
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 11:03 am to
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When gas prices fell from the stupid high prices a couple of years ago it has nothing to do with supply/demand.


Funny how that happened RIGHT AFTER then-President Bush removed executive restrictions on an assload of territory, eh? IIRC, that happened during the summer. "Speculation doesn't cause price jumps" my arse.
Posted by TejasHorn
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 3:14 pm to
Speculators drove it up to near $150 before and it'll happen again. Remember when the oil analysts and others had us believe it was a supply issue and would never drop below $115??

All the time they were making bank in the futures markets.

Posted by IHateLouHoltz
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 8:57 pm to
Buy ERX and forget about it!
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

it has NOTHING to do with supply/demand BUT that it is speculators




Of course! Speculators (whoever the hell those are) don't have anything at all to do with supply and demand! They're just playing around in a really thinly-traded market to drive things around and big multinational oil companies are at their mercy.

[/sarcasm]
Posted by tiger91
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 9:50 pm to
For what it's worth, I tried hard to make it clear that the question had been asked and answered on one of the talk radio shows ... NOT MY OPINION OR ANSWER.
Posted by Tiger4
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

While they go kicking and screaming that it isnt them the proof is in the pudding. When gas prices fell from the stupid high prices a couple of years ago it has nothing to do with supply/demand. The stock market tanked.
Do you mean the direct inflation, remeber bushs stimulus checks.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 4/6/10 at 10:12 pm to
Oil price posts should probably stay on the poliboard, as they seem to breed dumb in many forms.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

Do you mean the direct inflation, remeber bushs stimulus checks.

Posted by lsugorilla
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Member since Sep 2009
5522 posts
Posted on 4/7/10 at 11:06 am to
futures trading=guessing
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 4/7/10 at 11:21 am to
Well, it should at least be educated guessing. For example, cotton farmers should do pretty damn well at trading cotton futures, and a lot of them do.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 4/7/10 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Is it just that summer is approaching or do you think something else is going on? Of course, there are probably many reasons, but what are your theories?


Supply/Demand plus futures trading (speculation). For the most part the oil supply is a mystery - the Saudis are very tight with info on their production.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19585 posts
Posted on 4/7/10 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

For what it is worth, I heard on the radio yesterday that it has NOTHING to do with supply/demand BUT that it is speculators ... this is NOT me saying this but repeating what I heard to answer your question.


Bingo, when oil was 150 a barrel the surplus stock actually rose by about 4.3 percent. If it was solely based on supply and demand gas would maintain about 2.20 a gallon.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 4/7/10 at 2:08 pm to
Damn brah, you know the real supply and demand of the entire global oil market? I think you could probably make several million, maybe billions, of dollars with that kind of knowledge.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/7/10 at 2:27 pm to
Are you actually dumb enough to claim that there wasnt an artificial bubble in 2008 for oil?
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19585 posts
Posted on 4/7/10 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Damn brah, you know the real supply and demand of the entire global oil market? I think you could probably make several million, maybe billions, of dollars with that kind of knowledge.


I dont have to know it you smart arse, I can look up the reports that say it, give it a try slick rick.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 4/7/10 at 2:31 pm to
wtfmate? 99.9% sure I haven't even remotely insinuated that. Might just be "that dumb" though, idk.

ETA: In a completely ironic moment, I just started "The Supply of Natural Non-Renewable Resource" section in the Econ book for the CFA. I probably shouldn't even bother.
This post was edited on 4/7/10 at 2:37 pm
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