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what would you do in this job situation?
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:09 am
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:09 am
I took this job about 4 years ago and have been promoted to department manager about two years ago. Over the past 4 years all of the upper management has been replaced from our area VP to company president. To say the least it is like working for a different company. Our new area VP came from a company that ended up going out of business. The president is from a Spanish company that has a history of being hard to work with. We now have two full time attorneys and have some sort of claim on every project we have. We cannot buy equipment anymore, we have to rent everything. Last year during COVID my area VP decided to lay half my staff off without letting me know, I had people called me asking why they were laid off and I had no idea. Slowly the VP is replacing my staff at his will and not telling me who they are. I have tried to talk to my supervisor (who is from the same failed company as the new VP) and it was in one ear and out of the other. Am I wrong for being upset he is not keeping me in the loop on what’s going on? I have someone else who is interested in hiring me and I am honestly thinking about taking it. I was not looking to make a move, but sometimes I wonder if I should. Deep down I am not happy here right now. With all of the new hires I have had to take on a lot of extra work load to make sure we have our projects ready to go. I feel like I have a red x on my back and it is a matter of time before they find a reason to do something with me. Do I attempt to talk to someone else here like HR, or just jump ship? I did not want to post in in OT, i was hoping for some real advice. Thanks for reading the rant
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:16 am to bayou choupique
I'd say jump ship if you can. It's just delaying the inevitable.
(And just to get the OT responses out of the way, walk into the boss's office at 3:50 and PIIHB.)
(And just to get the OT responses out of the way, walk into the boss's office at 3:50 and PIIHB.)
This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 8:18 am
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:16 am to bayou choupique
Ooof. I think I would jump ship while you have another offer.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:18 am to bayou choupique
No brainer to jump ship. That sounds like a terribly run company.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:18 am to bayou choupique
I'd be getting me resume ready right now, probably yesterday.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:24 am to Bestbank Tiger
Look after number 1.
It sounds like the same company I work for but I only have a few years left so I'm riding the wave until it hits the beach.
It sounds like the same company I work for but I only have a few years left so I'm riding the wave until it hits the beach.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:29 am to bayou choupique
Sounds like:
1. Your company is on the brink financial insolvency.
2. You have no control. Your VP is replacing your staff, which really means they're not actually your staff.
3. Based on number 2, it seems inevitable that you will also be replaced.
4. You're admittedly unhappy.
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, but I don't understand why people do this to themselves. You obviously are a worthwhile employee because another employer is interested. Why do you allow yourself to take shite from these people?
1. Your company is on the brink financial insolvency.
2. You have no control. Your VP is replacing your staff, which really means they're not actually your staff.
3. Based on number 2, it seems inevitable that you will also be replaced.
4. You're admittedly unhappy.
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, but I don't understand why people do this to themselves. You obviously are a worthwhile employee because another employer is interested. Why do you allow yourself to take shite from these people?
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:37 am to FinleyStreet
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I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, but I don't understand why people do this to themselves.
Change is hard. It is easy to look at a situation from the outside and say what to do. It is hard to actually make that call for yourself and move forward with it. Looks like that guy is trying to make sure he isn't over-reacting which is good.
I agree with everyone else though, I'd make the switch while you have another offer.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:59 am to bayou choupique
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Deep down I am not happy here right now.
I was gonna tell you to hang in there until I got to this part. If you're unhappy for 8 hours a day it will eventually bleed into every facet of your life. If you have other opportunities maybe you should leave... Life is too short to be miserable for a third of it.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:13 am to bayou choupique
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Slowly the VP is replacing my staff at his will and not telling me who they are.
It sounds like you are in a position only to be held accountable, but have no real authority. Your VP is undermining your leadership role and is lessening your value to those who “report” to you.
Since you can’t change him, look to change what you can control. You. Do what you believe is necessary to protect and better yourself.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:16 am to bayou choupique
Every single thing you mentioned points to taking the new job.
The company sounds like a sinking ship.
Even before you mentioned it, I felt like you had an x on your back.
I'd "get while the gettins good"
The company sounds like a sinking ship.
Even before you mentioned it, I felt like you had an x on your back.
I'd "get while the gettins good"
Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:41 am to bayou choupique
Jump ship, but before you do so, explore other job opportunities in addition to the offer you have. What's another month or more to look at what's out there for you?
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:00 am to bayou choupique
Get out while the hiring market is hot.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:09 am to thegreatboudini
thanks for the encouragement guys. The current company is owned by a parent company in Germany. Cash is everything. At the end of the year we were told to overbill, get change orders approved ahead of time, and sell all assets that were not used, for example a temporary bridge we could have used in the future. All for a large cash position for the end of the year balance statement. I know this is the way a lot of European companies operate but it sounds like smoke and mirrors to me.
The other company is employee owned and has roots in the US. Oddly enough the guy i interviewed with sent me an email stating an offer letter would be coming my way.
The other company is employee owned and has roots in the US. Oddly enough the guy i interviewed with sent me an email stating an offer letter would be coming my way.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:34 am to bayou choupique
Why have you not talked to the VP about what’s going on and why he’s doing what he’s doing?
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:43 am to Double Oh
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Why have you not talked to the VP about what’s going on and why he’s doing what he’s doing?
I would have another job lined up before this approach.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:44 am to bayou choupique
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I was not looking to make a move, but sometimes I wonder if I should. Deep down I am not happy here right now.
Sounds like you know the answer and are looking for affirmation. Only you know enough about your work, family, and financial situation to make the call. But my view is if shite isn't working and you honestly feel that's not going to change, the worst case is you'll be in the same boat with a different gig. So you're playing with house money trying to find something better and hopefully realize the upside professionally with an added improvement in quality of life.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:01 pm to Double Oh
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Why have you not talked to the VP about what’s going on and why he’s doing what he’s doing?
If you don't like or trust your supervisors, this is not only pointless its a bad idea. Its only going to hurt the relationship if they know you are unhappy.
The reality is that unless you believe in the company or your future there, then you should absolutely be looking for a new job/ company all of the time.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:08 pm to bayou choupique
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At the end of the year we were told to overbill, get change orders approved ahead of time,
That is scary stuff. I would get out ASAP
Posted on 7/28/21 at 1:01 pm to bayou choupique
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Deep down I am not happy here right now
Leave, go somewhere else. They aren't gonna rehire an executive leadership team over your feelings
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