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What to do with 2 Old 401K accounts from previous employers

Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:02 am
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21915 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:02 am
I have 2 old accounts, 1 is from a previous employer and the other is from a soon to be previous employer. New company I am going to does not offer any type of retirement at the moment (it's basically a start up).

What should I do with those 2 accounts?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11084 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:19 am to


Don't touch either
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36006 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:22 am to
I would roll into an IRA, but that's me.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4220 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:35 am to
This ^^
Posted by Crescent Connection
Lafayette/Nola
Member since Jun 2008
2019 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:52 pm to
Just don’t buy $250k worth of AUPH options. Very hard lesson I’ve learned.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20982 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:19 pm to
Roll it into a Roth and take the tax hit today to save in the future.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2116 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:58 pm to
You have no idea of OP's tax situation. Roth conversion may be a good strategy but not if OP is in a high bracket and probably not all at once unless it is a small balance.

Often best to wait and do conversions in lower income years perhaps in retirement.
Posted by OhioLSUfan
Columbus, OH
Member since Oct 2007
1285 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 4:18 pm to
You could roll them over into an Ira which would give you more control over them - that’s what I did. Or you could let them sit. 401k’s in general have too much in bonds for my taste, since I’m always from retirement when I rolled mine over I put it almost all into the stock market and and happy with the results.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63928 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 5:13 pm to
The trouble with rolling them into a Trad IRA is that in the future you won't be able to do those often mentioned "Backdoor Roth" deals when you start getting into upper income. This is what I have fricked around and found out.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
2520 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 5:13 pm to
Decide who you like from existing.. then roll the other into the one you liked..

I had fidelity from the first company I worked for … I changed companies a few times in my career and would just call fidelity and give them the specifics of the other one and have them roll them together.. ( moved a Schwab.. and Merrill).. let them do it for you.. they will make sure no penalties and roll over same index funds etc …or move them into something like it that they manage..
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58110 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

401k’s in general have too much in bonds for my taste,


The 401k’s I’ve been in over the years have many options for investments. You would only need up in something with too many bonds if that’s what you chose for your investment.
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1570 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:09 pm to
Really disappointed that I'm the first one suggesting hookers and blow.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40464 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:19 pm to
This isn’t the OT, we are a classy bunch here… well mostly.
Posted by good_2_geaux
Member since Feb 2015
740 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:17 pm to
I had a smaller 401K from my first job out of college that I rolled into an IRA (Schwab). I mentioned “back dooring” it into a ROTH and me CPA said it was going to be hard bc he would need to find the cost basis of the 401K. I threw out those forms a long time ago.

Doesn’t make sense to me but anyhow, I’ve got the money sitting in an IRA.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72600 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:22 pm to
roll into IRA
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
1303 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:46 pm to
I just left mine as I liked the investment options and the fees were reasonable.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
4343 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:13 am to

Direct rollover into a self-directed IRA
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
4962 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:52 am to
Roll it and put in a low cost fund or index it
Posted by ClusterCock
Myrtle Beach
Member since Oct 2018
59 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:27 am to
30+ years of experience as a Financial Advisor - now Wealth Management.
First thing, get it out of your 401ks and do a rollover and consolidate both into an IRA. This is a non-taxable event.

Company 401ks usually have a limited menu of choices to keep cost down. If you work with an advisor you can invest in a much wider array of products. Most, including me, are fee-based now. I charge 1%, which is pretty standard.

As far as converting to a Roth - it depends on your age. You will take a tax hit on any part rolled into a Roth but it's all tax-free after that. That's fine if you're 40, you've got time to make it up. Not too good if you're converting at 60. Time may not be on your side.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25734 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Company 401ks usually have a limited menu of choices to keep cost down. If you work with an advisor you can invest in a much wider array of products. Most, including me, are fee-based now. I charge 1%, which is pretty standard.
You can also just roll it into an IRA and invest in whatever funds are available without giving 1% to an advisor.
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