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re: what is your ideal 401 K balance at retirement?

Posted on 5/1/18 at 9:52 am to
Posted by Cool Hand Luke
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 9:52 am to
Nothing to do with being a boomer. Railroad Retirement is the shite. It is still available to all who want to put up with their crap for 30 years.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:08 am to
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I will hopefully have 500k when I retire in 3 years. My pension will be 90k per year. I should be able to make it on that. But won't be living extravagantly.

So... you’ll have the equivalent of a $2.75M portfolio in basically today’s dollars. Yea, you should be able to make it on that.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:10 am to
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This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 10:11 am
Posted by Cool Hand Luke
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 12:43 pm to
Don't know how you are coming to that figure but I wish it would be true.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:02 pm to
I invested and planned for retirement since the day I left college, now I am 63, been retired 8 years. Its been better than I imagined, the only problem is retirement years pass three times as fast as working years. My advice is take financial calculator projections with a grain of salt, you may achieve that or more, the odds are you will have less. There will be recessions, the markets will crash, something will happen over the 30 years you work that will cause you to tap your retirement savings. All you can do is invest consistently as much as you can into quality financial products, hope and pray.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:26 pm to
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Oh I know, I didn't really mean I was truly sad about it I'm perfectly happy with the numbers I put in that post. I love my job, and I realize how fortunate I am to be able to retire at least from full time work that young


I’m 45 and 22 years into a 30 year pension plan. 53 is my goal, surprising similar numbers to yours. I plan on working full time though and drawing that pension as well. For about 5 years.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:31 pm to
I don’t really have a number per se but I do track my net worth change closely. As long as I am saving at my current rate for the next 10-15 years, then retirement will take care of itself.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:18 pm to
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Don't know how you are coming to that figure but I wish it would be true.

4% is widely considered the safe withdrawal rate that one can spend in retirement and not worry about ever running out of money.

$90k is 4% of $2.25M.
Add your $500k (which 4% yields you $20k/yr)

$2.25M + $500k = $2.75M
Total benefit: $110k/yr

Really it’s a much safer benefit than a 401k as $90k is guaranteed and you only need to worry about market fluctuations on the other $20k.
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:40 pm to
A big key to retirement savings is making sure you retire debt free. Once that is achieved, it doesn't take much money to retire. Lots of people think they need a million dollars to retire. Most people can do it comfortably with 500K. Your spending years will mostly be between 60 and 70. Afterwards, you'll be doing what most older people do ie sit around the house, watch TV and go to the grocery and doctor's offices. I hope to be retired in 1.5 years. My broker says I'm in good shape. I'll take his word for it. I hope to live off the interest.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:48 pm to
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Most people can do it comfortably with 500K.
Are you not counting what's needed for medical costs?
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 3:14 pm to
I absolutely think $500K is more than sufficient for a married couple assuming several conditions:

1. Debt-free
2. Both receiving SS payments
3. Medicare coverage including all prescriptions
4. Lower COL region (i.e. not California/NYC/S. Florida)

Personally, I am shooting for $2MM, but I have only $90K now with ~25 years left to work.
Posted by 22jctiger22
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 5:25 pm to
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I will hopefully have 500k when I retire in 3 years. My pension will be 90k per year. I should be able to make it on that. But won't be living extravagantly.


That's a serious pension! Do you mind if I ask what industry? The lump sum cash value of that must be up there!

Edited: RR Pension... got it. Can you take a lump sum?
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 7:15 pm to
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Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 7:21 pm to
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4% is widely considered the safe withdrawal rate that one can spend in retirement and not worry about ever running out of money.



while it is nice to even have that IF you must draw down, but frick that nonsense. I am not busting my arse putting money away to draw down. invest in cash flowing vehicles so you do not need to draw down.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 7:24 pm to
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at most I could do is 33 years, after that you aren't doing anything for retirement anyways.


maybe it is different with you pension, but I know someone who did 40 years (2.5% a year) and retired at 62 with 100% of his salary for life
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 7:30 pm to
Yeah, those aren’t going to exist for the vast majority of the working population under the age of 35.

I’m not even expecting social security to exist by the time I reach retirement. A pension would be a miracle
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44093 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 7:44 pm to
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Yeah, those aren’t going to exist for the vast majority of the working population under the age of 35.


I'm aware, I was responding to a poster who is going to retire at 52, @75% of his salary.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 7:50 pm to
What % rate of return are y’all using for the estimated retirement nest egg? 6% or so? Hopefully not Dave Ramsey’s 10-12%.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 7:59 pm to
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maybe it is different with you pension, but I know someone who did 40 years (2.5% a year) and retired at 62 with 100% of his salary for life


30 years would get me 90%, at 52 that would put me at 30 years. I could do 3 more and get 99% I’ve still got over a decade to go till that time comes to truly decide.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 8:00 pm to
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I'm aware, I was responding to a poster who is going to retire at 52, @75% of his salary.


I never said 75% lol, it would be 90%
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