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What investments would you wish you made now if USA and China go to war over Taiwan

Posted on 4/20/23 at 5:27 pm
Posted by LSU_historian
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 5:27 pm
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Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 5:36 pm to
Lead.
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 5:49 pm to
SQQQ
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38436 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:02 pm to
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I have a strong feeling that we will be supporting a proxy war with China in the next 5 years over Taiwan. What funds do you think would be winners and losers if this were to occur?


Anti-tank weapons and missile systems:

Raytheon Technologies Corporation (maker of Javelin missiles)
Lockheed Martin Corporation (maker of FGM-148 Javelin missiles)
Rafael Advanced Defense Systems (maker of Spike missiles)
Artillery and ammunition:

BAE Systems

General Dynamics Corporation
Rheinmetall AG
Denel Land Systems


Communications equipment:

Harris Corporation (now L3Harris Technologies)
Thales Group
Motorola Solutions


Drones and radar systems:

General Atomics Aeronautical Systems (maker of MQ-9 Reaper drones)
Turkish Aerospace Industries (maker of Bayraktar TB2 drones)
Lockheed Martin Corporation (maker of AN/TPQ-53 radar system)

Raytheon Technologies Corporation: RTX
Lockheed Martin Corporation: LMT
BAE Systems: BAESY (OTC), BA. (LSE)
General Dynamics Corporation: GD
Rheinmetall AG: RHM.DE (Frankfurt Stock Exchange)
Thales Group: HO.PA (Euronext Paris)
Harris Corporation (now L3Harris Technologies): LHX
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Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:02 pm to
Raytheon
Halliburton
McDonnell Douglas
Posted by LSU_historian
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:20 pm to
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Posted by CHGAR
Haile, LA
Member since Aug 2022
1256 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:52 pm to
You bet on winning the war. Any other outcome and your investments will be practically worthless.

The German stock market was frozen in August 1944, preventing a crash, then was down about 78% in 1948.

Hell of a buying opportunity in '48.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4934 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:55 pm to
Probably TXN since they make the chips for military purposes.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8776 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:56 pm to
The only way we could hope to protect Taiwan is through direct intervention and we would likely lose.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
3104 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 7:04 pm to
Gold
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
8059 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 7:19 pm to
NOC, LMT.


But I'm pretty sure the answer to the last question is no winners, the entire world loses.
Posted by rocksteady
Member since Sep 2013
2986 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 7:22 pm to
I agree. I don’t see how there’s a real win in the cards if China just strolls over and says “mine”. Certainly don’t want to go to war with China but I am extremely intrigued what our actual response would be if they invaded. I doubled my position in tsm towards the end of last year and it’s just along for the ride now.
Posted by Catfishmt
SW MT
Member since Nov 2017
105 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 7:24 pm to
Would be bullish for oil and other commodities too maybe? China mines so much of the world’s minerals that any sort of disruption would cause a massive price spike?
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
13801 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 7:39 pm to
Gold, ammo, real estate and enough liquid cash to live on for a while.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:00 pm to
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What funds do you think would be winners and losers if this were to occur?


I can’t really imagine a single equity that ends higher in that scenario. The answer is to be short TSMC, or any other equity.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37539 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

The only way we could hope to protect Taiwan is through direct intervention and we would likely lose



Maybe

People forget Taiwan still exists because China couldn't take it by force when they tried

Just being the superior military power is no guarantee of victory. I think China could pulverize Taiwan but don't know if they could invade and subjugate Taiwan
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7377 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:38 pm to
Might as well play both sides. You can buy multiple Chinese defense industry companies with special permission at IB.
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 9:02 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24799 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

agree. I don’t see how there’s a real win in the cards if China just strolls over and says “mine”. Certainly don’t want to go to war with China but I am extremely intrigued what our actual response would be if they invaded.


Though we had officially adopted the foreign policy of Containment, when China fell to Communism in 1949 we just totally let it happen.
I’d bet on a similar result this time.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4934 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 6:39 am to
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You can buy multiple Chinese defense industry companies with special permission at IB.


In this scenario, China would likely freeze those assets and you’d never get your money back.
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