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Posted on 5/3/26 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 4:04 pm to
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This concept that any individual should be able to afford a home is a new development.


We rented 1st 2-yrs of marriage. Put 10% down on starter home and paid PMI. How did we come up with the 10%? We lived 95% of means and each carried some savings into the marriage.

Would that translate the same way today?

Our daughter recently married about same age, just out of college, 1st real job…for both of them.

Our $100k home in 1996 is congruent with $250k home today at 3ish % inflation. However, the actual home price was $340k. I feel the point some are making about home affordability.

How did they do it? They lived on 90% of their income to get the 10%.

It’s algebra from there. More time to ownership, less lifestyle to build downpayment or tooth fairy I suppose!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 4:11 pm to
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Our $100k home in 1996 is congruent with $250k home today at 3ish % inflation. However, the actual home price was $340k. I feel the point some are making about home affordability.
Indeed. Except your daughter is Gen Z. Had she enjoyed the advantages of ZIRP that GenY did (the reason home prices escalated), the "algebra," would be VERY different for her.

The current market is tough though, and I'm not sure houses hold their prices at current levels, which is a double whammy for your daughter, unfortunately.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 4:17 pm to
Bruh that’s HOUSEHOLD. Which is heavily influenced by more women entering the workforce

Also good work taking a small part of my post out of context:
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You can look at inflation adjusted income over last 30 years, or % of income needed to buy a home over last 30 years - objective statistics.

Now compare median income vs median cost of homes (inflation cancels out)
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22661 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 4:29 pm to
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Go to the poli board if you want to make things political and wrongly assume people’s political stances

If you don't think "boomers stole our prosperity" is political, you are achingly clueless.
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 4:30 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 4:52 pm to
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Now compare median income vs median cost of homes (inflation cancels out)
NO!
Sorry.

First, as I said there is no question the market is currently tough. That is a strawman related to your GenY contention. By the time the market turned, the youngest GenY was 25-26!

Second, you are conveniently leaving out the low cost of home financing millennials enjoyed for the preceding decade, meaning home purchase was far less expensive than their 30 year comparator.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:16 pm to
My son got married recently. Here’s what the whole wedding “process” cost, or at least the pieces that I have familiarity with:

- Engagement ring (3 carat) – $28K
- Engagement party, catering, alcohol, venue, DJ – $5K
- Wedding dress – $4K
- Total for bridal party dresses/tuxes – $7K
- Bachelor/bachelorette party (weekend in San Diego, rented beach house, day on yacht, in-house chef, alcohol) – $15K
- Rehearsal dinner catering and after-party and venue – $6.5K
- Wedding venue w/ catered reception – $22K
- Bride party-dress – $4K (custom made)
- After-after-party bus to night club + night club expenses – $3.5K
- Video and photography – $5K
- DJ – $1.7K
- Honeymoon (10 days in Greek resorts) – $13K

Total – $117K

When his mother and I got married in 1985, here’s what it cost:

- Engagement ring (.5 carat) – $1.5K
- No engagement party
- Wedding dress (wore her mother’s)
- Total for bridal party dresses/tuxes – don’t remember but it couldn’t have been much more than $1K
- Bachelor party was a kegger in the hills – maybe $200
- Bachelorette party – $200
- Got married in a church – $100
- Reception (church basement) – $700
- Honeymoon in Hawaii - $2K

Total – $5.7K which is $17K in today’s dollars

Millennials: “In 2026 dollars, it costs 5 times as much to get married today compared to when boomers got married. Boomers had everything handed to them. They stole our prosperity!”
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:25 pm to
How much would a honeymoon in Hawaii cost today?
How much would a kegger in the hills cost?

Sure people are doing more extravagant things but everything is way more expensive now than it was back then. The value of the dollar doesn’t come close to touching that difference.
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
1343 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:35 pm to
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the low cost of home financing millennials enjoyed for the preceding decade, meaning home purchase was far less expensive than their 30 year comparator.


This is huge! Very low cost of money mortgages tends to be conveniently forgotten.

Our daughter (Gen Z) got hit with high housing prices and high(er) cost of mortgages. Still achieved ownership through lifestyle adjustment to build down payment.

The breakeven of home ownership and renting was questionable. In hindsight, so glad they now own. There are some amazing real estate investments being made around them. They should experience significant home appreciation in next 3-5 years.

Housing is a tough one nowadays. Daughter and SIL now own and are living 90% of means, emergency fund properly filled and are actively investing in their 401ks. Proud of them! Where there is a will, many times there is a way (blessings are counted in here).

Whining about it just gets in the way.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:44 pm to
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How much would a honeymoon in Hawaii cost today?
How much would a kegger in the hills cost?

Sure people are doing more extravagant things but everything is way more expensive now than it was back then. The value of the dollar doesn’t come close to touching that difference.

You must have skipped over this part of my post -

Total – $5.7K which is $17K in today’s dollars

In other words, my son could have gotten married for $17K today, if he had the wedding his mother and I had. And just think, that $100K difference would be a great down payment on a nice home.
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
1343 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:50 pm to
Home down payment now lives on her finger and in bachelorette pics!

Kidding…sort of.

I graduated weddings, so to speak, a couple of yrs ago. Our daughter married. I get it. But Geezum, weddings are expensive and trade off mindset (home $) non existent.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:55 pm to
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Total – $117K


Hope you didn't pay a penny for that
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33426 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:57 pm to
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Millennials: “In 2026 dollars, it costs 5 times as much to get married today compared to when boomers got married. Boomers had everything handed to them. They stole our prosperity!”

No, your son just paid out the arse for their wedding shite tier comparison and outing your parenting
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22661 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 6:01 pm to
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No, your son just paid out the arse for their wedding shite tier comparison and outing your parenting

I didn't say anything about who paid.

And the argument I make in that post is 100% the same argument you self-identifying conservatives make about housing (one example) when you're toeing the Leftist line on this topic.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40996 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 6:11 pm to
Why the frick did your son buy a 3 carat engagement ring lmao
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27784 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 6:18 pm to
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Sure people are doing more extravagant things but everything is way more expensive now than it was back then. The value of the dollar doesn’t come close to touching that difference.


That goes to my point about priorities changing. David's son and bride prioritized the wedding and in the process spent more than enough to put a 20% down payment on a half million dollar home. They aren't the only ones. I don't know if they will now complain about not being able to afford a home, but sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it, too.

My daughter is 26. She's venting, but she's only 26. She's saving money, and she'll get there eventually. She may end up getting a condo, to start with. That's fine for a single woman.
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Member since Sep 2013
4951 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 7:35 pm to
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In other words, my son could have gotten married for $17K today, if he had the wedding his mother and I had


And I’m telling you he couldn’t.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26793 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:01 pm to
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She may end up getting a condo, to start with. That's fine for a single woman.


Buying a home is tough.
It is exponentially more difficult for a single person.

Good luck to her. I hope she reaches her dreams.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:13 pm to
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And I’m telling you he couldn’t.

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