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re: The ARKK’s about to take on water?

Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:10 am to
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9394 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:10 am to
At what point do we hit liquidity crisis?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11958 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:12 am to
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Lol there's no liquidity below $100


Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
36941 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:22 am to
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$91.75


I was just watching the conversation on this on CNBC. WOOF. Wasn't there some guy who was considering cashing everything out and going all in on ARKK? Hope he didn't actually do it. Down 40% since Feb.

Do the idiots on Reddit still worship Cathy Wood?
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 11:24 am
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
52506 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:39 pm to
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EXHIBIT A? I offer you the Janus Capital Group. Janus, you'll undoubtedly recall, was the hottest of hot fund companies during the Internet bubble, with every one of its go-go mutual funds seemingly going in only one direction: up, up and up. In early 2000, at the peak of the bubble, half the money pouring into mutual funds from investors went to Janus. At its peak, in September 2000, Janus had $318 billion in assets.



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But when the bubble burst, the Janus family of growth funds was absolutely crushed. From September 2000 to September 2002, the flagship Janus Fund lost almost 60 percent of its value, as did Janus Worldwide, another big-name fund. Janus Mercury and Janus Twenty were both down more than 60 percent. It turned out that Janus's fund managers had completely lost their minds in the bubble, far more than growth managers at many other big fund complexes. There was little or no investing discipline; many of the fund managers bought the same small handful of stocks; their portfolio construction was terrible; and they had stopped even thinking about whether the stocks they were buying were overvalued -- much less worrying about it. To make matters worse, Janus spent the immediate aftermath of the bubble in denial. "It was a very insular culture," says Russel Kinnel, Morningstar's director of research. "So many of the fund managers didn't know any other way."



NYT Article from 2005
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9394 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:52 pm to
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Until the pandemic almost every single ARK fund was underperforming its Morningstar benchmark and category. I believe ARKK was the only outperformer. Historically her funds have been incredibly boom or bust too. It wouldn’t be outrageous to think she’ll experience a little reversion to the mean in the next year or so.


, ARKK literally the worst fund in the entire mid-cap growth space YTD.

Still #1 over 5 years though.
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5743 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 2:35 pm to
I took a chance on ARKK with a small percentage of my portfolio and it has not done well. I do believe in disruptive technology so I guess I’ll hold for some years and see what happens.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16081 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 3:41 pm to
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I do believe in disruptive technology so

Some of her picks such as ROKU,DOCU,ZM,TDOC were all made during COVID. COIN is not Unique. None of these are disruptive because they all can be substituted with something else. The same with a lot of other stuff she picks. Guy created ETF that Shorts Ark fund called (sark) and has been cleaning up
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 3:47 pm
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14662 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 3:48 pm to
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Invest in $ROPE


Or SARK.
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5743 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:19 pm to
I feel ya. Well, I haven’t lost anything yet bc I’m holding. Reversion to the mean as stated above is not out of the picture. In it for the long haul now.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41019 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:39 pm to
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Or SARK.


My SARK calls are printing
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 6:06 pm to
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Wasn't there some guy who was considering cashing everything out and going all in on ARKK? Hope he didn't actually do it. Down 40% since Feb.


Yeah, I well remember that comment too. I think it was the same guy who was going to pay some crazy @$$ price for privately held shares in a space exploration company - but I may have one FOMO poster mixed up with another.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9394 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 4:56 pm to
New 52 week low. $86

Time to run unless you want to be one of the bag holders.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10727 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:48 pm to
Didn’t she sell miss out on something like a half billion in Tesla gains when she sold on top of the other mounting losses too.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9394 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:16 am to
She’s made several choices that could be questionable. At the end of the day, Tesla is pretty much the only thing holding this fund together right now.

Moreover; during a 12 month historic bull market averaging a 27-30% return the ARKK is down 50%.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9394 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:41 pm to
$77….

Another new 52 week low…
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
36941 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 4:58 pm to
Someone in here mentioned SARK so I bought some of that on Jan 7. Already up 10% and would've gotten in a lot sooner if I'd have known about it

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The investment seeks to provide investment results that are approximately the inverse of, before fees and expenses, to the price and yield performance of the ARK Innovation ETF (the ETF). The fund is an actively managed exchange traded fund that attempts to achieve the inverse (-1x) of the return of the ETF for a single day, not for any other period, by entering into a swap agreement on the ETF.
This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 5:00 pm
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21087 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 5:56 pm to
I mean it's basically a Nasdaq select fund - and benefited greatly with the explosion in Tesla stock value

Going to be a tough play for awhile - especially since it is actively managed you depend on Cathie Wood making good choices going forward ....



Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10727 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:35 pm to
$TDOC down 40% and ole Cathie has just bought over 600k shares in the last 2 weeks.



RIP
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
6769 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:45 pm to
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$TDOC down 40% and ole Cathie has just bought over 600k shares in the last 2 weeks.


TDOC chart is insane. ARKK is definitely taking on water at this point. The funds outflows have got to be gigantic.
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