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re: The ARKK’s about to take on water?

Posted on 2/24/21 at 7:38 am to
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14831 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 7:38 am to
Seems like an overreaction.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16512 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:54 am to
Any news on the ARKX and when it's coming out? Thoughts on that one?
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
2542 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 11:21 am to
they say march ...
she has been building it and you hear rumors of stuff she is picking up sometimes...

will start a position and dca in over a few months/year...

on the fence as to just going all in at first op or waiting three daysthen open a position and dca for three months....

how are yall going to set a position for arkx when it opens???
Posted by Santiago_Dunbar
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2021
214 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 11:27 am to
Still thinking about this myself. I didn’t jump in any of the IPOs this past year
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8969 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 1:51 pm to
ARKK down 25% to $125.

My stop loss kicked in. Sold today...
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16512 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

ARKK down 25% to $125.

My stop loss kicked in. Sold today...


I sold half of my shares when it was over $150. My remaining shares are all profit but have taken a little beating here, can't decide if I still want to hold onto them

Any new thoughts on ARKX and when it's coming out?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38795 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 2:39 pm to
I bought more F and W today
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8969 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 2:40 pm to
I’m a long term ETF Indexer. I like keeping things simple and diversified while preferring a passive investment style. With the sale of ARKK my portfolio is now literally 4 ETF’s. An S&P Index, a International Index, an mREIT ETF and a short term Corp Bond ETF.

Buying ARKK was a risk I took knowingly as I got lured into the quick returns; but, the fact is the companies in much of ARK’s portfolios are not profitable. Many aren’t even earning revenue at all.

Many of the companies they hold are also the fodder of places like Reddit/WSB which makes me increasingly uncomfortable. Seeing ARKK increase its exposure to the EV bubble (Tesla) enticed me to put in a stop loss order.

The more I look, the more I think Woods has capitalized on the internet private investor/CNBC watcher and has done a brilliant job marketing herself. I don’t think her choices are sustainable over the long term compared to the S&P Index. Sure, she’ll have some outperforming periods but when the bear market hits ARK’s gonna get hammered. JMHO...

I think ARKX will likely follow the same trajectory as their other offerings. Initial interest and hype will propel them forward. At some point, actual returns become an issue as we’re seeing now with ARKK.

Posted by SkinnyTestaverde
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Dec 2009
401 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 3:00 pm to
ARKX will probably be the worst because it will be overbought immediately
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8969 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 3:12 pm to
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ARKX will probably be the worst because it will be overbought immediately


I think this is a very real possibility.
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
5986 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 3:26 pm to
ARK etfs aren't for short term investors. She literally says their time horizons on all of their positions are like 5-10 years out. I probably shouldn't, in this type of environment we're switching to, but I'll stick with it.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38795 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 3:27 pm to
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ARKX will probably be the worst because it will be overbought immediately


I don't get how it works - if it is overbought they just invest more money right
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8969 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 4:09 pm to
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ARK etfs aren't for short term investors.


I may agree on principle because she’s betting on future returns; but, let’s be honest and admit that short term investors are exactly who’s elevated the share values to what they are.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9254 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 4:16 pm to
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I may agree on principle because she’s betting on future returns; but, let’s be honest and admit that short term investors are exactly who’s elevated the share values to what they are.


Definitely a big fear of losing out contingent.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8969 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 4:19 pm to
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I don't get how it works - if it is overbought they just invest more money right


Overbought means the price has shifted considerably in a short period of time. Typically upwards meaning the stock/ETF is trading for more than its actual intrinsic value.

Oversold is exactly the opposite. Meaning the item is undervalued and selling for less than its worth.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85017 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 4:24 pm to
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I don't get how it works - if it is overbought they just invest more money right


Market makers try to bring the market price and fund NAV in line whenever possible, but it’s not always possible due to liquidity issues in the underlying securities. Ideally you don’t want to purchase an etf that’s trading at a higher market price than the actual value of the underlying securities.
Posted by jsk020
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
1699 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 5:11 pm to
i'm in arkk for the long term in my roth ira. so i'm hodl'ing
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36121 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 5:32 pm to
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She literally says their time horizons on all of their positions are like 5-10 years out


Which I think is great. The danger is sinking big money into highly valued companies with astronomical P:E ratios.

Boom or bust, it seems likely their results will be unusual
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85017 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 5:44 pm to
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Which I think is great. The danger is sinking big money into highly valued companies with astronomical P:E ratios.

Boom or bust, it seems likely their results will be unusual



She’s somewhat a victim of her own success. If this was a mutual fund she’d have probably closed it, but given its ETF structure she doesn’t have a choice but to buy most of the same names she helped run up. It’s tough to repeat that success as AUM increases astronomically.
Posted by jsk020
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
1699 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 6:55 pm to
pretty sure she has a ARK mutual fund. or at least i see one on Fidelity with the name of Cathie Woods. Horrible expense ratio tho
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