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re: Retirement at 55 questions

Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
3183 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:11 pm to
It doesn't sound like you've been paying extra on mortgage so I don't see how recast applies in your situation. If you did pay extra earlier in the loan, a recast might lower monthly payments so you don't pay the low interest loan off any earlier than original 30 year term.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5044 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:20 pm to
Correct. Early on there were some small additional payments to interest until talking to someone who convinced me that it might not be wise to do that at a low interest rate. It made sense at the time and still does today. That doesn't mean it couldn't have helped though. Too late now either way. To do it today would require a lump sum payment.
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
1590 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 7:40 pm to
Just retired at start of 55 myself.

First off, congratulations! It’s incredible. Every aspect of my life has improved since retiring. Hope all the same for you!

Will try not to repeat but here is what I have learned / our approach. Sharing in hopes that it helps your thinking / planning.

First, Rule of 55 will be important. Mentioned above. This is great for your peace of mind to access 401k, whether you choose to or not. As stated, make sure your current 401k allows partial distributions.

We planned for “dynamic” withdrawal rates. For example, go-go yrs when fully active/ambulatory (6-7% withdrawal) 60-75yo, slow-go when we slow down a bit after 75 (4-5% withdrawal) in retirement. First years are 4-4.7% just to be conservative.

We plan to enjoy nest egg with our kids while we are alive and may tap higher withdrawals for extended family vacations, help them with moderate home improvement projects, fund their Roths early in their careers, etc. Blessed that longevity risk is near zero.

To say, your 6% rate is a bit high at start but sounds like your SS and / or pension (cash out or annuity) cushions you well. Make sure you plan for sequence of returns risk, especially your early / 6% years. You may consider bigger cash equivalents (we did this in our tax deferred) or safe fixed income those years to protect yourself.

Will defer to the experts on the MB but I am of opinion that taking pension lump sum makes most sense. Get that on your “balance sheet” and off of your company’s. Removes the annuity survivorship decisions as well. Be careful here. I rolled into existing 401k, not a new IRA. There are watch outs here that impact Roth conversions (I think) if you roll to new IRA.

We no longer have life insurance. Again will defer to MB experts, but with your nest egg, you may not need. We do not.

With large tax deferred mix, you may want to consider RMD reduction strategy. For example, we are going heavy Roth conversions in early retirement years (and will do so until RMD years…reducing conversion per tax table space (ie, less during pension and SS years)). The lifetime of reduced taxes is big! Further, in natural course of life, we do not want to hit our kids with an estate at their highest tax earning years. As well, the widow tax if I go (places wife as single tax filer / higher tax tables). Roth conversions are beautiful for all above.

Cleared tax table right now to enable this (eg, tax exempt muni’s frees up tax tables). Had some large non qualified retirement lump sums that help us do this.

We have mortgage at under 3% rate. We plan for it in our retirement expenses (withdrawal rates). Have associated ETF that could more than pay it off tomorrow, with significant safety margin, but is earning double digits vs the 3% mortgage rate…will never pay it off with such positive spread).

We have company health insurance so not much help on ACA.

Have spent a lot of focus on RMD reduction planning. Reducing lifetime of taxes is our plan, even if costs us more IRMAA. Get to know IRMAA (Medicare costs / income…that starts 2 years before you start Medicare.

Tips:

Control spending is priority always but especially early years.

Know you Monte Carlo / longevity risk on your money.


Allocate your portfolio so that you rest your head on pillow at night. We plan to be conservative early years and to have more equities exposure over time, as early retirement means long timeline, God willing.

I went a bit long. Hope helps!
This post was edited on 5/18/26 at 7:59 pm
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
1107 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:08 pm to
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Yes, I'm pretty sure this is what will be happening during those initial 4.5 years. Rule of 55.


Withdrawals from 401K have a mandatory 20% Fed withholding. It looks like most of your income will be in the 12% or less brackets. You will be overpaying your taxes, which means you will have to withdraw more than you need to to meet your income goals.

If you roll that 401K over to an IRA you can't use Rule of 55, but you can use 72t. The IRA doesn't have mandatory withholding, it is optional and you can set the rate. 72t is more rigid and has more gotchas. I have been doing it since 2022. Read up on the rules.

My Obamacare would have been $1100/month if I hadn't started work again. I am 60 and single. After a 4 year retirement, a former coworker contacted me about a work from home job with his company that builds on what I used to do, and so far, everything is great. Job includes health insurance. Works out great.

I see most of these types of questions to be about tax efficiency. Taxes are in some ways a bigger threat to your portfolio than inflation. Always look at the tax implications, from multiple sides.





Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5044 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

Have spent a lot of focus on RMD reduction planning. Reducing lifetime of taxes is our plan, even if costs us more IRMAA. Get to know IRMAA (Medicare costs / income…that starts 2 years before you start Medicare.


This will be big in whichever decisions I make. Any decision that seems close, or iffy, I will always choose the option that gives the least to the govt, even if it means I have to live slightly more modest than I'd otherwise choose.

I appreciate the time and thought put into your response. Thank you!
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5044 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

You will be overpaying your taxes, which means you will have to withdraw more than you need to to meet your income goals.


I don't know for sure, but in my mind I feel like I'll be withdrawing up to just less than the 24% bracket, and rolling what I don't need into a Roth. No?

And thanks for reminding me about 72t. I am familiar with it, but I'd say I have a minimal level of knowledge on it.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
1107 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:26 pm to
Married filing jointly the top of the 12% bracket is $100,800. You don't hit 24% until after $200,000.

For $140,000 you should only have about $20,000 or so in the 22% bracket depending on deductions, the rest will be at 10% and 12%. Your effective Fed tax rate is close to 11.5% on the whole $140K. So that 20% withholding on your 401K results in paying about 85% more taxes than you have to, then waiting patiently for them to refund it to you each year.

You would have more flexibility with the 401K than with the 72t, but your choices are not all or nothing. You can roll over some of it to an IRA to meet some basic income needs through 72t, and leave some of it in 401K for some more flexible spending under Rule of 55. Then alter the withholding on your 72t withdrawals such that 20% withheld on your 401K withdrawals makes the math work out.

Not everyone wants to get down in the weeds on this, but the only person who really has your best interests at heart is you.





Posted by FriscoTiger
Frisco, TX
Member since Aug 2005
4827 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:50 pm to
I am in a similar situation, but I plan on retiring in 2 years. I have a financial planner I am working with, but I have learned a lot by watching Kevin Lun and other guys on YouTube. They offer many different approaches to the big decisions you will have to make in the near future. I am not sure if any particular one of them has all the answers but between all of them they cover all the bases.
Good luck and congrats!!!
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
1590 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:44 pm to
LINK

Coincidentally, just watched one of my fav personal finance YouTubers…Erin Talks Money.

Several withdrawal rate points pertinent to your thread you may find interesting.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6785 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:05 pm to
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Will defer to the experts on the MB but I am of opinion that taking pension lump sum makes most sense.


Yes

Take the lump sum and don’t look back.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6785 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

We no longer have life insurance. Again will defer to MB experts, but with your nest egg, you may not need. We do not.


In most cases, it makes sense to carry some life insurance. Just to get your spouse buried / cremated / etc. is painfully expensive right now.

Should you die soon into your retirement, the liquidity provided to the surviving spouse, via life insurance, makes decision making much less stressful.

Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
4507 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:01 am to
If you pay off the house and get debt free, day to day living is manageable. Speaking from experience.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5044 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:13 am to
Thanks. I think it's plenty manageable now though. I am mostly looking to pay the least amount of taxes as possible throughout the journey. I'd still be doing the same if the house were paid off.

I do wish I had done more early on to pay it down. But I firmly believe I have "enough" to retire comfortably if I am careful. With some luck in the market, I should be beyond comfortable.

In the very first month of retirement, our take home "pay" will be more than it's ever been in my working career, even if we ultimately decide to spend more conservatively in the first five years. I've busted my arse to save for a long time, even to the point of causing friction with my wife.
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
3194 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:32 am to
What's the note per month? If you pay it off, you have the note amount for living expenses.
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
3194 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:34 am to
quote:

In the very first month of retirement, our take home "pay" will be more than it's ever been in my working career,


It sounds like it's time to retire. Enjoy it!
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
1590 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:50 am to
quote:

In the very first month of retirement, our take home "pay" will be more than it's ever been in my working career


This is the big sign! When ours projected to be 15% more than highest earning years, concept of working went on life support, so to speak. Option to spend, not necessarily what will be spent.

Good for you!
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5044 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

Take the lump sum and don’t look back.


This is most likely what I will be doing. Currently my plans revolve around this option. I work with some really smart people. I mean genuinely smart people. I've watched a lot of them retire over the years and I don't recall a single one of them who didn't take the lump sum. And they all justified their decision with various reasons that made perfect sense to me. At least it did at the time. But trust me, things are different when it's YOUR turn to make that decision.

That said, I have to admit that a guaranteed payment for life sounds very safe in some ways, assuming it's enough. It takes some of the guess work of worrying about how long you'll live out of the equation.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5044 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

What's the note per month? If you pay it off, you have the note amount for living expenses.


The mortgage payment is not what matters to me here. It's the interest rate, which is not the lowest, but still fairly low.

I believe I'd prefer having that money invested and working for me, rather than write a check that size just to pay it off.

I'm open to other lines of thought, however.

Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3784 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:53 am to
quote:

I do not believe that the portion of my 401K that is considered gains gets taxed as such. I believe it is taxed as income regardless. No?


Gains and your contributions are taxed as ordinary income from a traditional 401. Both are tax free in a Roth. Contributions were made with after-tax money at the time of the contribution for Roth.
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