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People with 25+ years to retirement. What's the financial plan?
Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:35 am
Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:35 am
Max 401k?
Then Roth/Traditional IRA?
Any remaining money to another ETF and slow build?
Focus on obtaining passive forms of income?
What's the plan for most here or what did you all do? Obviously this greatly depends on the availability of money and salary ranges
Then Roth/Traditional IRA?
Any remaining money to another ETF and slow build?
Focus on obtaining passive forms of income?
What's the plan for most here or what did you all do? Obviously this greatly depends on the availability of money and salary ranges
Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:47 am to HailToTheChiz
The same old playbook
1. 401k to match
2. Max Roth ira
3. Max 401k
4. Standard brokerage
Stick to low cost broad index investing and just let it ride
1. 401k to match
2. Max Roth ira
3. Max 401k
4. Standard brokerage
Stick to low cost broad index investing and just let it ride
Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:53 am to UltimaParadox
Standard brokerage contributions just whatever is left at that point or a certain percentage?
Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:55 am to HailToTheChiz
I was fortunate to get a decent company match so invested 10 and got 8 matched my entire career. I could have maybe raised it but I didn’t because I saw guys who were 401k rich but missed out on a lot.
My goal was to get as much into the market as I could, I turned 50 this year and have turned off my 401k deposits and swapped to Roth contributions so that I can build up a war chest of Roth funds in my next 5-7yrs before I retire.
My brokerage account and Roth will be my emergency fund and legacy I leave to my kids and I will live off my 401k and pension.
It starts off small and hurts when you start out only making 40k per year and your account barely moves but just keep grinding because years 20-26 it really starts to grow.
Sp500 index fund and no more than 25% of company stock at any time. Emergency fund so that you never have to deviate from the plan.
My goal was to get as much into the market as I could, I turned 50 this year and have turned off my 401k deposits and swapped to Roth contributions so that I can build up a war chest of Roth funds in my next 5-7yrs before I retire.
My brokerage account and Roth will be my emergency fund and legacy I leave to my kids and I will live off my 401k and pension.
It starts off small and hurts when you start out only making 40k per year and your account barely moves but just keep grinding because years 20-26 it really starts to grow.
Sp500 index fund and no more than 25% of company stock at any time. Emergency fund so that you never have to deviate from the plan.
This post was edited on 11/6/26 at 11:00 am
Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:56 am to HailToTheChiz
I thought our retirement plan was stealing from the rich now?
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:03 am to LB84
Living like a pauper and maxxing out all the retirement accounts so the witches and heathens can steal it later
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:31 am to HailToTheChiz
quote:
Standard brokerage contributions just whatever is left at that point or a certain percentage?
This is where I differ. I contribute the match amount to my 401k then dump as much as I can into individual brokerage to give me quick access to cash if I need it for other investments or just whatever. I also hope that it will eventually be my bridge between early retirement and 401k age.
My situation may be unique in that I also get a “bonus” 4.5% from my employer in addition to the match and my wife is also a high earner, but us only putting the match for our 401ks and dumping as much as possible into a brokerage has already provided a ton of flexibility in our mid 30s that would not have been available if all of our funds were tied up in a 401k. Our 401ks are also very healthy as well so there has been zero sacrifice there.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:40 am to Ol boy
quote:Why not Roth 401k so you stilll get company match?
turned off my 401k deposits and swapped to Roth contributions
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:59 am to HailToTheChiz
This is what worked for us.
Maxed 401k & Roth IRAs as soon as we could.
At the time I didnt quite understand what would be best, Roth IRA or 401k (traditional only back then) so I just maxed both when I had the chance due to an annual military retention bonus for several years. When that dropped off, pay had increased enough w promotions that I just continued.
Whenever I noticed our checking balance getting larger than our comfortable buffer, ~3 months of expenses, I moved a big chunk to brokerage invested according to if we might need it in short/mid term (MMF) or not (index funds.)
Avoided dividend stocks/funds because didnt need income so didnt want to pay tax on distributions. Glad I did that because lack of large dividends gives me more flexibility to tax optimize in retirement and rebalancing in taxable brokerage would be costly due to gains.
Maxed 401k & Roth IRAs as soon as we could.
At the time I didnt quite understand what would be best, Roth IRA or 401k (traditional only back then) so I just maxed both when I had the chance due to an annual military retention bonus for several years. When that dropped off, pay had increased enough w promotions that I just continued.
Whenever I noticed our checking balance getting larger than our comfortable buffer, ~3 months of expenses, I moved a big chunk to brokerage invested according to if we might need it in short/mid term (MMF) or not (index funds.)
Avoided dividend stocks/funds because didnt need income so didnt want to pay tax on distributions. Glad I did that because lack of large dividends gives me more flexibility to tax optimize in retirement and rebalancing in taxable brokerage would be costly due to gains.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:36 pm to HailToTheChiz
The goal should be 25% of gross income. Easier said than done. This is step 7 in the “Financial Order of Operations” from one PF resource, referred to as the hyperaccumulation step.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:55 pm to UltimaParadox
quote:
The same old playbook 1. 401k to match 2. Max Roth ira 3. Max 401k 4. Standard brokerage Stick to low cost broad index investing and just let it ride
This!!!
Automated, regular investing in cash-generating assets, per this tax advantaged optimum, over long term builds wealth. I am strong proponent of low cost index funds (eg, VOO) as they win most of time over time (from experience).
2 add’l points:
- Keep healthy focus on taxable accounts. Primarily funds/assets with high capital gains growth (vs dividends as they increase taxes as ordinary income). These accts enable earlier exit than 59.5yo.
- instead keep high dividends / current income from bonds (if want them) in tax deferred or Roth, to defer or deflect those taxes.
The magic I did not realize at your stage:
Believe it or not, the more difficult part will be when to stop. You will reach a point where you can stop and enjoy financial independence (time!) sooner than you might think, with plenty margin of safety.
Your ‘saturation point’ likely reached sooner than realize (post working lifestyle fully satisfied whereby more time / investing does not materially improve said lifestyle).
Do it now, often and automate it. Your future self thanks you!
This post was edited on 11/6/26 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 11/6/26 at 1:05 pm to UltimaParadox
quote:
1. 401k to match
2. Max Roth ira
3. Max 401k
4. Standard brokerage
This. Never max out your 401k before you max out your roth ira. Get the match on the 401k for the free money, but then make sure you can max out the roth ira before doing more to the 401k.
Also, if you are able to have an HSA, I'd put that equal with the Roth if not ahead of it, especially if you get an employer match on it as well.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 1:05 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
I’m contributing Roth and I get matched Roth.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 1:06 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
quote:
Avoided dividend stocks/funds because didnt need income so didnt want to pay tax on distributions.
Another perspective, put some dividend assets in your roth and have them reinvest the dividends. It's quite nice
Posted on 11/6/26 at 2:37 pm to HailToTheChiz
I just turned 33. My company offers a Roth 401k so I dump 15% of my salary into that.
Have no debt besides a mortgage at 2.9%, so I dump any additional savings into my taxable account in case I need to access it before retirement.
My company offers a nice pension so I'm hoping that's around as well but who knows? I have roughly 25 years until retirement at this rate.
Have no debt besides a mortgage at 2.9%, so I dump any additional savings into my taxable account in case I need to access it before retirement.
My company offers a nice pension so I'm hoping that's around as well but who knows? I have roughly 25 years until retirement at this rate.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 3:37 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:
Also, if you are able to have an HSA, I'd put that equal with the Roth if not ahead of it, especially if you get an employer match on it as well.
This.
When on Medicare your HSA can be used tax free for Medicare Part B &D premiums as well as Medicare Advantage premiums in addition to the normal uses.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:09 pm to hob
Yep. Not to mention, if you are just diligent with keeping your receipts for every medical expense you just pay for out of pocket your whole life, in retirement, you can just start reimbursing yourself for those expenses then, tax free, while you let the funds compound over time while you got a tax deductions and they grew tax free.

This post was edited on 11/6/26 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 11/6/26 at 5:52 pm to UltimaParadox
quote:
1. 401k to match
2. Max Roth ira
3. Max 401k
4. Standard brokerage
Stick to low cost broad index investing and just let it ride
Don't forget HSA. Many people would have it at #1 as it's the only account type that is triple tax advantaged. I personally would have it at #2.

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