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re: Morgan Stanley believes S&P could dip by 26% this year.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:40 pm to Thundercles
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:40 pm to Thundercles
They probably have a lot of cash on the sidelines. Wouldn't mind a crash so that they can buy up a lot of stuff on sale.
My equities are 60/40 so US/International so hopefully that insulates me from a big drop. It did last year.
My equities are 60/40 so US/International so hopefully that insulates me from a big drop. It did last year.
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:46 pm to SaintsTiger
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They probably have a lot of cash on the sidelines. Wouldn't mind a crash so that they can buy up a lot of stuff on sale.
7 layer dip baw
The reckoning that all the woke formerly first world countries are facing now is gonna hit here before long
Posted on 2/22/23 at 5:22 am to Upperdecker
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Nah Gen X and Millennials. Pretty confident we have more boomers than Gen Z
Im guessing 70% on Gen X / Millennials and the remaining 30% on Gen Z and boomers on the website.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 5:26 am
Posted on 2/22/23 at 6:00 am to FLObserver
The only official census group is boomers. The others have been made up by advertisers and marketers so we know someone born in 1978 is way different than 1981.
Anyway, the oldest millennials will be turning 43 this year by most definitions. Still young enough to max out that 401k in growth funds.
Anyway, the oldest millennials will be turning 43 this year by most definitions. Still young enough to max out that 401k in growth funds.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 5:22 pm to Thundercles
One financial guy told me MS has been correct on market drops 6 out of the last 18 times
Posted on 2/22/23 at 6:32 pm to Enadious
^^^ Right you are. 
When I was a kid, there was a guy who got a kick out of spooking the cattle by setting off a coyote call. Sadly, cattle aren’t the only creatures with a herd mentality.
When I was a kid, there was a guy who got a kick out of spooking the cattle by setting off a coyote call. Sadly, cattle aren’t the only creatures with a herd mentality.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 4:56 pm to Thundercles
Cool. I'm going to do what I've always done, barely look at my account as I trust my allocations, and keep plowing money into it for the next 30+ years.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:11 pm to Thundercles
Screw the S&P. I’m in ATLX going to the moon right now.
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:24 pm to Upperdecker
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Nah Gen X and Millennials.
this is correct
Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:16 am to Thundercles
Awful specific. Not 25%. Not 27%.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:42 pm to lsu13lsu
a 26% decline would mean the index had fallen to 3000
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:11 pm to TigerintheNO
Why did i buy Google and AMZN before they split??? Feel like i'm going to be holding the bag on these two for a few years 
Posted on 2/25/23 at 6:52 am to Thundercles
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Expensive US equities are flashing a warning sign that could see the S&P 500 sliding as much as 26% in the first half of this year, according to Morgan Stanley strategists.
MS was pretty accurate in 2022, but think they're missing on timing here. The script coming into this year was recession beginning Q3/Q4. Recession now looks delayed until maybe 2024 so there's really no reason for a crash in 1H 2023 if the economy is holding up through the rate hiking cycle.
The S&P is expensive and that's why index investors are going to be frustrated with minimal upside potential returns since the S&P will be in a choppy range, but there's plenty of good long opportunities in stocks.
The next big downside on S&P comes when recession is at the door. It's going to be very interesting when the Fed reaches terminal rate and eventually starts cutting. The reason for cutting rates is NOT going to be bullish.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:14 am to el Gaucho
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us millenials are getting tired of paying 50% of our income to social security and Ukraine
Vote smarter
Posted on 2/25/23 at 12:07 pm to Thundercles
I'm buying $40k worth of equities in 2023, most of it indexed to the S&P 500. Wish me luck, baws.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 12:08 pm to cable
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FFS - people in their late 60s are probably Boomers - 40 is probably Gen X - everyone older than you is not a Boomer
I'm guessing that gaucho is trolling
Posted on 2/26/23 at 8:31 am to Thundercles
2008 S&P 500 predictions. Abhijit Chakrabortti of Morgan Stanley-1520. Abby Joseph Cohen, Goldman Sachs; and Tobias Levkovich of Citigroup-1675. Thomas Lee, JPMorgan Chase; and Hugh Johnson, Johnson Illington Advisors-1590. Rod Smith of Wachovia Securities-1580. Richard Bernstein of Merrill Lynch-1525. S&P ending 2008-903.25. Uncanny how accurate they were, with one of them only being off by 40%, a mere rounding error.
Posted on 2/26/23 at 8:37 am to Bdiddy
Their guesses may be more informed than yours, but guesses all the same.
Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:01 am to Thundercles
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S&P 500 sliding as much as 26% in the first half of this year,
And where would all of that money go?
Posted on 2/26/23 at 1:09 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Not that bold a move really…
I'm buying $40k worth of equities in 2023, most of it indexed to the S&P 500. Wish me luck, baws.
But good luck
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