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More are financing groceries with buy now, pay later loans — and more are paying late

Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:56 pm
Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:56 pm
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Lending Tree’s chief consumer finance analyst, Matt Schulz, said that of those respondents who said they paid a BNPL bill late, most said it was by no more than a week or so.

“A lot of people are struggling and looking for ways to extend their budget,” Schulz said. “Inflation is still a problem. Interest rates are still really high. There’s a lot of uncertainty around tariffs and other economic issues, and it’s all going to add up to a lot of people looking for ways to extend their budget however they can. For an awful lot of people, that’s going to mean leaning on buy now, pay later loans, for better or for worse,” he said.

He stopped short of calling the results a recession indicator but said conditions are expected to decline further before they get better.

“I do think it’s going to get worse, at least in the short term,” said Schulz. “I don’t know that there’s a whole lot of reason to expect these numbers to get better in the near term.”

The loans, which allow consumers to split up purchases into several smaller payments, are a popular alternative to credit cards because they often don’t charge interest. But consumers can see high fees if they pay late, and they can run into problems if they stack up multiple loans. In Lending Tree’s survey, 60% of BNPL users said they’ve had multiple loans at once, with nearly a fourth saying they have held three or more at once.

“It’s just really important for people to be cautious when they use these things, because even though they can be a really good interest-free tool to help you kind of make it from one paycheck to the next, there’s also a lot of risk in mismanaging it,” said Schulz. “So people should tread lightly.”
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71346 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:09 am to
This is more a reflection of people making dumb financial decisions rather than some meta signal about the economy.

There have been multiple inflationary periods since the end of ww2 and yet somehow those generations didn’t finance their groceries, despite grocery costs as a percent of income were much higher then.

The explosion of “payment plans” for various consumer goods concerns me, honestly.

It’s one thing to finance a root canal, but to finance a weekly grocery visit? Jesus!
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
18424 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:49 am to
If it’s “interest free” and they pay it on time, this is actually not a bad idea on the face of it.

I bet there is some “hyper” internet subreddit extolling how it is a way to stretch money for free.
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 10:17 am
Posted by kaaj24
Dallas
Member since Jan 2010
782 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 6:53 am to
I agree I think this is people not understanding financial matters more than being stretched. No doubt some people are using it to get by.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5153 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:06 am to
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If it’s “internet free” and the pay it on time, this is actually not a bad idea on the face of it.



If you're having to do it with groceries you're obviously in a tight spot, but I don't get the blowback from people doing interest free loans on things they would otherwise have to dip into savings for. Its a good tool if you're responsible in its use.
Posted by Tangineck
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2017
2352 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:27 am to
When I see people canceling cell phones and home internet and setting the thermostat to 80 I'll believe there's a need to finance groceries.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
7261 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:32 am to
No shite. People are confusing “hard times” with inconvenient times.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
31497 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:40 am to
exactly. people are putting their wants over their needs, and then complaining they are struggling for the basic necessities. and Euro eats its up
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70733 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:50 am to
BNPL is going to be a backbreaker for when this economy finally hurts. It's so incredibly dumb people can put everyday small purchases on payments now, and do this many multiple times over.

With the new admin coming after student loan borrowers in default, and almost 1/4 of student loans in default, you know these are the people that have racked up these BNPL loans over the last few years.

Still boggles the mind how we let people just not make payments for 5 years in a row on student loans. I mean I know exactly what the last admin was thinking when they allowed this to continue for as long as they did, but its not going to be pretty now that 1/4 of student loan borrows will HAVE to pay on their loans that have surely racked up large amounts of interest over the last few years and the govt will garnish them if they can.
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 8:53 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
70733 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:55 am to
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Its a good tool if you're responsible in its use.


It's pretty much a terrible tool for 98%+ of the people that use it, because it literally encourages you to buy things you cant afford until you then cant afford the payments themselves and then get killed with fees and interest.

It's just another poor persons tax without them realizing it. If you are putting $15 of McDelivery on 4 payments; thats a problem.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6030 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:57 am to
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but I don't get the blowback from people doing interest free loans on things they would otherwise have to dip into savings for. Its a good tool if you're responsible in its use.


The idea is you should build a life that you don't have to dip into savings for. Anytime you're signing away future income for today's expenses is a slippery slope.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
55401 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:06 am to
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This is more a reflection of people making dumb financial decisions rather than some meta signal about the economy.


I think it's both.

The inflation since COVID created a new spending pattern called "hate spending". The term refers to the act of spending money out of frustration or defiance despite rising prices and is often accompanied by anger or resentment toward having to pay more for goods or services that were previously less expensive. This "hate spending" has driven consumers to create historically high debt even while interest rates are also at or near historic highs.

The recent news about Doordash creating a layaway plan should have been chilling to anyone watching the economy. When consumers are so deeply in debt and/or are so financially illiterate that they are putting a basic staple (food) on payment plans, that's a warning sign of structural economic problems.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5153 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:47 am to
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It's just another poor persons tax without them realizing it. If you are putting $15 of McDelivery on 4 payments; thats a problem.



I'm not talking about McDelivery though, thats obviously bad.

For example, I think having access to the $2500 I would use out of my savings for a TV is worth an interest free payment that will drop off eventually and that I don't even notice.

But you also have to be responsible with it. If you do that every weekend you end up with $500 a month in interest free loans vs $50 I won't even miss in a given month.

People get into financial pickles with these things when they start buying stuff they wouldn't have otherwise bought.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5153 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:55 am to
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The idea is you should build a life that you don't have to dip into savings for.


That is a great idea but not the reality for most Americans. Not even close.

I personally look at it as an opportunity cost thing. Does the cost of the item take more from my savings in terms of my financial security than the 0% interest monthly payment impacts my monthly budget?
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2883 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:59 am to
Go into any of those homes and you’ll probably find more big screens than I have.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70733 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 11:23 am to
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I'm not talking about McDelivery though, thats obviously bad.



This is what BNPL has turned into though.

There's aways been 0% options for larger purchases, tvs, appliances, furniture, etc etc

Now we are talking about going to Old Navy, spending $27 and putting it on BNPL because they offer it. Or any online shopping in general where typically the transaction price isnt that much, but you almost always have the option to use a BNPL option at checkout which a lot of people are obviously doing.

I think there's a right time and place to use 0% financing options on larger purchases, and makes sense in say moving to a new place, lots of cash going out the door potentially, so furnishing some new space getting some 0% financing on that to spread out that cash flow hit.

There's no reason to use BNPL on these smaller purchases though, it's just a trap to eventually hope you cant afford the payments and then they collect a ton of interest and fees on you...and theres only 1 type of person using BNPL on $27 at Old Navy or $15 McDelivery - people who cant afford it to begin with and are broke. They end up with a $150-$200 BNPL balance each payment and then cant make the full payment. The point of doing it on such small purchases is to make it addicting to use since there's little (1/4 of price) to no sting at first when buying it so those endorphins of "I made a bad decision" dont get triggered. Unklike a credit card too when the full balance will be due in a month's or so time, and BNPL spreads things into smaller payments over time to make the "sting" once again never feel bad until you build up your payments over time to do so.
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 11:33 am
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
451 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:04 pm to
Interesting.

Sounds like they may need to get jobs soon.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53154 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 3:47 pm to
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If it’s “interest free” and they pay it on time


I just bought an airline ticket that had the option of 4 interest free payments instead of all up front. I thought about it for a minute.
Posted by Golgi Apparatus
Member since Sep 2009
3012 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:30 pm to
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It's pretty much a terrible tool for 98%+ of the people that use it, because it literally encourages you to buy things you cant afford until you then cant afford the payments themselves and then get killed with fees and interest.


Sounds no different than a credit card. And there are BNPL options out there with no late/hidden fees.

Also, BNPL companies underwrite each loan individually, so in theory lending should be more accurate than with a credit card (revolving line of credit).
Posted by ApexHunterNetcode
Member since Aug 2023
593 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:55 am to
This is why I can't wait for the Klarna IPO
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