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re: How Much House Can We Afford?
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:26 am to lsuconnman
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:26 am to lsuconnman
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In hindsight I wish I was less conservative because I kinda hate my house and want a new one more every day, yet I probably have a 10 year prison sentence given interest rates.
Same here, I hate our house and would love to move on. It's extremely affordable, only 5% of our gross monthly pay, but it's older and I never wanted to buy it in the first place. We've been in it for 10 years, and have 10 years left on the mortgage, and it's allowed us to save and invest a ton of money, but it's also older and is constantly needing some type of upgrade.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:30 am to HarveyBanger
Keep it on the smaller more conservative side and bank as much money as you can so you can retire young.
Wish I had done that.
Wish I had done that.
This post was edited on 7/19/25 at 9:31 am
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:42 am to HarveyBanger
You could technically afford 800-900 but it will absolutely be tight month to month and with 3 kids there is always BS happening.
I would shoot for 700-750 as your top.
I would shoot for 700-750 as your top.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:58 am to hiltacular
This is a really good thread getting everyone's different viewpoints for the OP to consider. Points like being too conservative and regretting that later and wanting to move again, or being too aggressive and cutting it too close and being miserable financially. Even the last comment about not stretching it too much and being able to retire early. All points to consider. If the OP has high confidence in increasing income that might make it easier to go a little higher. The decision also needs to consider the desirability of the location as well.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:59 am to HarveyBanger
We are right at 20% of net cash flow($ into checking net of all savings) and it stresses me the frick out. I miss the days before kids where it was closer to 8-10%. Damn kids, lol
Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:03 am to HarveyBanger
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How Much House Can We Afford?
What you can and what you should are two different things, but all depends on risk/stress tolerance.
I wouldn't touch the brokerage or 50k cash and use that for fall back should something happen. Use the proceeds from the prior sale as your down payment which will eliminate PMI
Personally, I'd feel comfortable somewhere around 600-700k, which would give a mortgage of around 3750 give or take depending on rates/taxes/insurance.
Again, to each his own and do what is best for your family and keeps your sanity.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:09 am to Bussemer
quote:. That funny. Another big factor. Are the kids little boys or girls.
Damn kids, lol
Different times now. I grew up in a lower middle class family. When I was 6-1/2 years old, my dad trained me how to cut our grass with our small push mower. Once I was able to cut our whole yard, he made me go around the neighborhood asking all of the neighbors if I could cut their grass. Before long I had a neighborhood lawn service at age 6. I was able to buy some of the stuff I wanted.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:25 am to 98eagle
Agreed. Personally I'd be in the 550-650 camp, but I do lean more conservatively. 2 years ago I was in the 450-550 range and landed at 530, and at the time was terrified.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 11:32 am to HarveyBanger
How big is your home now? How much sq ft do you think you'd need for everyone's comfort? I'm in a 2100 sq ft home with 4 people and 95% of the time I feel like it's plenty, but I also had several living situations growing up where each person under the roof had about 250 sq ft to themselves. So I don't take 500ish sq ft/person for granted.
For 5 people that would get you in the realm of 2000-2500 sqft. I live in DFW where the market's cooled a bit but still fairly high. 2500 sq ft near me would go for around $650K or so, which is absolutely within your range. If you go bigger that's fine, you could probably swing $750K-$800K comfortably, but it'd be in your interest to just step back for a moment and ask if it's too much house. Especially with the interest rates we see these days.
For 5 people that would get you in the realm of 2000-2500 sqft. I live in DFW where the market's cooled a bit but still fairly high. 2500 sq ft near me would go for around $650K or so, which is absolutely within your range. If you go bigger that's fine, you could probably swing $750K-$800K comfortably, but it'd be in your interest to just step back for a moment and ask if it's too much house. Especially with the interest rates we see these days.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 11:50 am to messyjesse
Similiar situation to you, 230k combined income pre tax, 200k to put down including selling my house. I’m looking at the 650k range now. 2300-2500 sq ft range. I have time on my side right now as there is no real rush to get into the new crib. Going to try to save up extra for all the hidden costs before building. From what I’ve gathered so far 5 percent of home sale goes to realtors when you sell, 15k in interest alone while they pull money to build, another 25k closing cost on the new home. Give or take a few thousand here or there it all adds up.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:01 pm to HarveyBanger
I’m conservative.
One thing I haven’t seen noted here (possibly I missed it) is purchasing the wrong house with regard to overhead.
Including but not limited to:
Old houses that need washing, painting and wood repair regularly.
Energy inefficient houses.
High end Landscaping, pools, saunas, things that require additional cost of upkeep or maintenance.
HOA fees.
We moved into a 1993-built house in 2013 and have replaced an entire A/C system, a built-in oven, a water heater and an exterior door (garage). That’s it.
Hardwood flooring throughout, bathrooms and kitchen were updated right before we got it.
That’s only about $1,000 per year.
tl/dr: Factor overhead into your purchase.
Sticker price is just part of the story.
One thing I haven’t seen noted here (possibly I missed it) is purchasing the wrong house with regard to overhead.
Including but not limited to:
Old houses that need washing, painting and wood repair regularly.
Energy inefficient houses.
High end Landscaping, pools, saunas, things that require additional cost of upkeep or maintenance.
HOA fees.
We moved into a 1993-built house in 2013 and have replaced an entire A/C system, a built-in oven, a water heater and an exterior door (garage). That’s it.
Hardwood flooring throughout, bathrooms and kitchen were updated right before we got it.
That’s only about $1,000 per year.
tl/dr: Factor overhead into your purchase.
Sticker price is just part of the story.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:58 pm to 98eagle
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put down a normal lower down payment and use the rest of your $200K as an emergency fund
This! But I'd invest all or a portion so it is working for you long term. Worst case happens and you have it at your disposal versus tied up in home equity. Sure monthly note is a bit higher but you'd be more secure from job disruption etc.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 1:01 pm to soccerfüt
I appreciate all the responses with good information.
Range I think we are settling in is 600K to 650k.
Correct. Large metro area that is reasonable cost of living. And the type of houses we are interested in are in one of the more established neighborhoods with homes built mostly in the 90’s
Range I think we are settling in is 600K to 650k.
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By those daycare costs, can I assume you’re in a MCOL city? Have you considered finding a larger, older home in an established/good area with plenty of space and using that equity to do some remodeling?
Correct. Large metro area that is reasonable cost of living. And the type of houses we are interested in are in one of the more established neighborhoods with homes built mostly in the 90’s
Posted on 7/19/25 at 1:39 pm to HarveyBanger
We once moved into an established neighborhood in a town that had lots of new construction elsewhere. Turned out it was mostly old folks and almost no one ventured outside. With kids, I'd make sure they're going to have ample playmates in the neighborhood even if that means compromise on type of home we prefer. More so, if they arent going to school w neighborhood kids.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 3:31 pm to HarveyBanger
With 3 kids of my own… if you plan on staying there long term, factor in what high school is going to cost because it will likely be double what you’re paying now.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 4:08 pm to HarveyBanger
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How Much House Can We Afford?
Is the question “how much house do we need?”
Does every kid “need” their own room?
Do you have to have “guest” space?
You can probably “afford” a bigger/better house, but it may also fall short at some point of meeting your “needs.”
All in all, as long as you “pay yourself first,” you can enjoy a bigger, nicer house.
Just understand that the “perfect” house does not exist.
Housing costs will vary regionally and by neighborhood. Better to have a decent house in a nice neighborhood than a mansion in a not as nice neighborhood.
All that being said, you can “afford” a big, nice home anywhere but NYC or California.
$500,000 does not seem like a stretch with $200,000 down. A realtor would show you homes for $700,000 and up.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 4:09 pm to mtcheral
A view from the low risk tolerant, double wide bleachers....we bought our home in 1990 - 2300 sq ft - paid 59k. Children were 7, 5, 3. Was a big purchase back then and in hindsight was a good call.
Income steadily rose as a public servant but likely topped out at 70k. The wife was a pre-school teacher - private - and didn't ring the cash register much [except ours].
What I failed to appreciate was the cost of the children - oh my - they are now 43, 41, 39.
Have no regrets, want for precious little, there were stressful periods-no doubt, but am comfortable with how things have played out to date. Said another way, lived below our 'could have afforded' and have not thought twice about that....when the children come home - with the 10 grandchildren - there is always outside - lol.
Best of wishes, be mindful as much as possible
Income steadily rose as a public servant but likely topped out at 70k. The wife was a pre-school teacher - private - and didn't ring the cash register much [except ours].
What I failed to appreciate was the cost of the children - oh my - they are now 43, 41, 39.
Have no regrets, want for precious little, there were stressful periods-no doubt, but am comfortable with how things have played out to date. Said another way, lived below our 'could have afforded' and have not thought twice about that....when the children come home - with the 10 grandchildren - there is always outside - lol.
Best of wishes, be mindful as much as possible
Posted on 7/19/25 at 4:27 pm to HarveyBanger
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We have two young ones (5 and 2) with a third on the way and need/want something bigger.
You want but DO NOT NEED something bigger.
Whatever happened to siblings rooming together?
Posted on 7/19/25 at 5:11 pm to HarveyBanger
It all depends on your lifestyle spending requirements. Only you can answer that.
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