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How many of you get a big tax refund check?

Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:10 am
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5031 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:10 am
It always blows my mind when people get excited for their big tax refund for some large purchase. I can't fathom someone willingly giving extra money to the government to hang on to throughout the year just to ask for it back at the end.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11672 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:13 am to
Guess I won't go out to a nice dinner on all that interest I missed out on.

I should have screwed with my W-4, probably gotten it wrong, and cut a $7,000 check instead. And when my (3) K-1 investments start generating money over the next two years, that's an absolute mind-F trying to figure out owed taxes on that.
Posted by Penn
Jax Beach
Member since Jan 2008
23448 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:14 am to
Agreed
cutting 7k check
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5031 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:23 am to
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Guess I won't go out to a nice dinner on all that interest I missed out on.


Mine isn't a financial gain argument, more of a frick the government argument. But if you'd like to give me 20,000 throughout the year that I give back to you at the end I'm happy to set up the arrangement.
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
816 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:28 am to
I get your point in theory, but I try to overshoot a little to avoid underpayment interest and penalties. I’m not worried about $50 in interest I could have made, and then taxed on.

The IRS doesn’t make it very obvious when you do pay the penalties either, I wonder how much of that $7k you owe is penalties and interest?
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11672 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:29 am to
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more of a frick the government argument.

Yeah, I get that. As a family with two HCEs, several K-1 investments that I owe / will owe random amounts of taxes, and some 1099 consulting on the side. I prefer to go single & 0 for our W-2 work. From there, the K-1 investments and 1099 work can eat into that number I would get as a refund.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5031 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:33 am to
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Yeah, I get that. As a family with two HCEs, several K-1 investments that I owe / will owe random amounts of taxes, and some 1099 consulting on the side. I prefer to go single & 0 for our W-2 work. From there, the K-1 investments and 1099 work can eat into that number I would get as a refund.

This makes sense. I guess I was W-2 and single most of my life and it's only recently that I've got more variance. I was thinking of the crowd only like my younger years-- lowish earners with one source of income.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52925 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:41 am to
quote:

It always blows my mind when people get excited for their big tax refund for some large purchase. I can't fathom someone willingly giving extra money to the government to hang on to throughout the year just to ask for it back at the end.

Some people have more complicated financial situations than you
Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
968 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:41 am to
I have a relative who is a single mom with 2 kids. She just got back 11k and is getting a tummy tuck and sleeve in Mexico.




I got back 600 and I am catching up on bills.......
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13616 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:42 am to
It’s forced savings and those receiving large refunds likely would not have saved the money throughout the year. They would be unable to get this large purchase.

The interest earned is nominal and would be taxed at the ordinary rate, so how much do you think they are leaving on the table? You are talking. About a $200 gain on $10k if you have it in a money market. At the ordinary rate, it’s a probably around a whopping $150 they are leaving on the table for a $10k refund. Very few people have anything close to that large of a refund, so it is typically much lower.

There seems to be irrational anger or looking down on those people. It’s their money. If it makes them happy then why should I rain on their parade.
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
816 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:47 am to
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There seems to be irrational anger or looking down on those people. It’s their money. If it makes them happy then why should I rain on their parade.
I wouldn’t say it their face, but it does annoy me how financially illiterate Americans are. Personal finance should be taught every year of high school, but it’s not and here we are as a nation. I don’t blame the individual, I know it’s more of a system problem.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:49 am to
quote:

It always blows my mind when people get excited for their big tax refund for some large purchase. I can't fathom someone willingly giving extra money to the government to hang on to throughout the year just to ask for it back at the end.


Its usually the case they didnt have a choice and the taxes were auto deducted and once you actually file, you get your tax breaks added in reducing your taxable income.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21233 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:51 am to
I will be paying the government, as usual, in October. Being part owner of a business comes with it's headaches.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13847 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:52 am to
I’m not adjusting my W4 for anything less than a $5k refund. I’d rather get a refund than owe.

Please spare me the “Muh interest free loan” drivel.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72538 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:06 am to
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Please spare me the “Muh interest free loan” drivel.






quote:

I’d rather get a refund than owe.



f that.

MUH INTEREST FREE LOAN
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:22 am to
quote:


Its usually the case they didnt have a choice and the taxes were auto deducted and once you actually file, you get your tax breaks added in reducing your taxable income.


I'm commission income and get a large return every year.
I claim single 0 dependents.

With 401k, HSA, cafeteria health insurance, and 529, I'm able to shelter a good bit of my paycheck too. But the 22% withholdings on my commission pay comes back each year in my refund.
Posted by LSU
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
8830 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

How many of you get a big tax refund check?


Not sure what you consider a big refund check. Mine will be about $4k this year (not a big refund in my mind), but I've certainly had larger ones in some prior years.

I shoot for breakeven, but there's too many fluctuations on some of my tax stuff to hit it with certainty ahead of time.
Posted by Jmcc64
alabama
Member since Apr 2021
513 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:17 pm to
how else are they gonna pay for the trip to PCB?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33375 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:52 pm to
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How many of you get a big tax refund check?
It always blows my mind when people get excited for their big tax refund for some large purchase. I can't fathom someone willingly giving extra money to the government to hang on to throughout the year just to ask for it back at the end.
I have so many K-1s to deal with, it's fairly hard for me to get it just right. However, I almost always err on the side of paying too little - e.g. I almost always never "pay safe" quarterly. I just assume the past year was my best year ever and was an outlier and thus I won't owe. In reality, I don't mind owing and even paying penalty interest because it's just not that much when compared with having the cash on my side until the very end. And now with risk-free paying 5.5% it REALLY doesn't matter.
Posted by BThibodeaux
Member since Jun 2005
110 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:56 pm to
Some get large tax refunds because they are required to pay quarterly estimated taxes based on the previous year’s tax liability. For those over $150,000 in income, you need to withhold 110% of the previous tax bill. For some retirees, a large part of their income is based on investments, specifically dividends and capital gains. A down year in the market can result in larger refunds because of the quarterly requirements by the IRS.
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