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re: How heavily are you still investing in the stock market?

Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
1881 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:33 pm to
15 straight months of losses? Heck are you smoking. I’m waiting for it to drop so I can buy in more.

The S&P500 was around 3500 back around October, it’s currently at 3948.72
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27067 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:57 pm to
100% equities, same percentage into the same funds every week, without fail, rain or shine. Rocking out with my cock out and enjoying the discount.
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Member since Oct 2014
1120 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:33 pm to
I’m about 60% TIPS, Tbills & high yield savings. Guaranteed 4 to 5% return is hard to beat. TIPS are a good long term play imo because government has to keep inflation going to service debt. Which implies a real return…

With extra money now I put half in Cash equivalents and 1/2 in index funds - value stocks and international funds. Currently my stocks are about 60/40 US/International. I have a thesis that in the next 5 to 10 years international stocks have better growth prospects than domestic.

As my short term treasuries mature I’ll buy more stocks and up the US % assuming prices and p/es drop.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4092 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 12:22 am to
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I’m buying the fear personally


In my trading account, I’m selling it. When the frightened herd begins to stampede and the VIX spikes, sending implied volatility and premiums to the sky, I sell options like there’s no tomorrow and

I’d pay to get el gaucho an infomercial on CNBC and Fox Biz. Spread the word (of doom & gloom) little brother. Preach!!!
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16208 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 5:51 am to
I stopped adding extra* to my stock market positions years ago and decided to diversify by buying real estate. I am happy (and honestly just lucky) that I did.

I bought two rental properties that were supposed to be a hedge against being 100% stock market invested.

At time of purchase - I had 40% of my retirement in the houses and 60% in the market.

The properties have gone up in value tremendously and the market was climbing too but now has flattened and dropped for quite some time.

1. Property #1 is an apartment next to a college campus that has doubled in value and has been rented every year.
2. Property two is a beach rental that is a cash cow and is up 60% in value. I don’t understand how it stays rented in this economy but it does.
3. Stock market is up maybe 5%.

My Real Estate retirement plan looks far better than the stock market portion right now. But that can change at anytime.

I live well below my means and will accumulate enough cash to buy another property or invest more in the market. My brain keeps telling me to “buy the fear and buy the dip” but it does not feel like the correct decision if I could find another good property that needs a cash buyer.

(*As an aside, I invest pretax enough in the market to meet my employer match - but not more for some time).
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52977 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:08 am to
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15 straight months of losses?

Try being a millenial


30+ straight years of losses
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16908 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:46 am to
The time was a year ago when the S&P took a massive dump
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32242 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:01 am to
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I have very little faith in the markets at the moment and always looked at them as gambling to be honest.
I set it and forget it. Haven't even checked my accounts in several weeks. I waited too late to pull out so I am in for the long haul. It always comes back but we are living in different times now but here's hoping.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72625 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:23 am to
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and decided to diversify by buying real estate.


smart move. welcome to the club.

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The properties have gone up in value tremendously


mine too and i never bought for appreciation only cash flow.

quote:

My Real Estate retirement plan looks far better than the stock market portion right now.


same here. i want to use dividends as well but i like high payers like QYLD and RYLD, etc and what i like is considered too risky to hold in retirement when that time comes but it would be a nice extra income stream. i may have to just live with the price/principal fluctuations. goal is 4 streams of cash flow in retirement. 3 passive. RE, dividends, loaning to HML's. and a 4th active being my commodity trading. hopefully my other side businesses by then will be running full speed also.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16208 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 12:47 pm to
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goal is 4 streams of cash flow in retirement. 3 passive. RE, dividends, loaning to HML's. and a 4th active being my commodity trading. hopefully my other side businesses by then will be running full speed also.


Thanks for the advice. I will look into some of these suggestions.

My main reason for purchasing property was just not to have all my eggs in one basket.

I was shocked at how fast they appreciated and how easy they are to keep rented. I always stayed away from property because of the horror stories you hear about bad tenants. But I took the advice of a successful friend who told me to buy the nicest property in the area and rent it for the highest rate. It keeps the risk lower I guess. It’s worked great so far.

I have no desire to retire (ever) and love my job.

But all this passive income is a nice benefit for sure.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41114 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 1:56 pm to
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Why is everyone freaking the frick out



I wonder why everyone ISN'T freaking out. We are sitting on the mother of all bubbles that was created by the federal reserve in conjunction with our federal gov't. This is destined to implode at some point.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84872 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:25 pm to
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wonder why everyone ISN'T freaking out. We are sitting on the mother of all bubbles that was created by the federal reserve in conjunction with our federal gov't. This is destined to implode at some point.





Why did you post a linear scale chart of the S&P 500 from WW2 to July of 2021?

Here’s some food for thought… from December 1943 to December 1971, when the gold standard was dropped , the S&P 500 annualized total return was over 2% higher than from January 1972 to today.

Maybe gold was the bubble??
Posted by IcantBelieveItsNotBu
Member since Mar 2023
130 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:13 pm to
I mean 300 a month goes into it each month plus 300 into crypto
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12879 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:13 pm to
If this is for retirement in 15-25 years, why would you not buy when it’s cheap? Your only bet is that stocks will be worth more then than now.

My non retirement accounts I’m buying some oil stocks and speculative things but nothing big. I sold a lot of this last year to take gains. Mostly looking at alternative investments with that money since it’s for now and not the future.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46065 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 7:07 pm to
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I’m about 60% TIPS, Tbills & high yield savings. Guaranteed 4 to 5% return is hard to beat. TIPS are a good long term play imo because government has to keep inflation going to service debt. Which implies a real return…


Similar strategy. Waiting for the likely +20% whack that’s coming before the end of 2023, will pile back into equities again after the plunge.
Posted by UnoDelgado
Covington
Member since Nov 2019
535 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 7:43 pm to
I am 90% in 3 month CD’s.
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1014 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:12 am to
I’m 90% cash and Gold.
10% stocks
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46065 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 8:21 am to
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I am 90% in 3 month CD’s.


I've laddered quite bit of CDs 3-6-9 and short term treasuries. I listened to some mega commercial real estate investor last week complaining about CDs paying 5%, he's worried too many Americans are going to the safety of fixed interest investments and we risk an equities and real estate collapse. At least this billionaire is being honest, admitting they need the American people participating in riskier investments so they can run their skim operations.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14964 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 9:33 am to
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I have very little faith in the markets at the moment and always looked at them as gambling to be honest.


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10% of my cash and put it into the market 4 years ago



It’s a 20-50 year game. Pulling it early during a downturn is a donation to the patient.
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2821 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 9:45 am to
I’m about 75% in fixed, money market and 25% in equity.

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