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Buying a new car/truck ever 3 years advice.

Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:54 am
Posted by cajuntiger26
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:54 am
I am in the market for a new truck and looking at the #’s it seems to me that if i can consistently get a good end of the year deal on my truck then i can rotate new cars every 3 years for only slightly more than keeping them long term. (I always buy a 2017 model right now to get max off MSRP)

Current truck - bought for $28k, had 5 years now worth $16k. =$200 month depreciation.
I am now looking to buy a truck for a good end of the year deal and expect a similar depreciation, purchase at approximately $31k. The main reason I have not bought a used vehicle is because ford in particular gives significant rebates on new truck purchases and it is almost negligible to buy used vs new.

I know this doesn’t account to TT&L, but i avoid major maintenance fees and stay in the warranty period for most of the life of the vehicle since i only drive 10k miles a year.

Am i overlooking anything here?
Posted by 10MTNTiger
Banks of the Guadalupe
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:57 am to
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Am i overlooking anything here?


Do you want to have a perpetual car note?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 8:09 am to
If you drive that few miles, and want a new car every 3 years, you're one of the few people leasing could work for.
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 8:15 am to
Why not just lease? It'd likely be cheaper if your goal is to rotate vehicle every 36 months.
Posted by XanderCrews
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 8:40 am to
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Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 8:51 am to
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If you are only driving 10k miles a year buy a Tundra and pay it off. It will last you a minimum of 10 yrs at that rate without ever doing anything except changing tires and oil.




100k miles with no major maintenance is something just about every new vehicle sold today can achieve.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 9:02 am to
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If you are only driving 10k miles a year buy a Tundra and pay it off. It will last you a minimum of 10 yrs at that rate without ever doing anything except changing tires and oil.

This doesn't exactly fit into the OP's buying a new car every 3 years idea.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
8033 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 12:00 pm to
I once bought a ram 1500 for $27k, $14,000 off msrp. Had it for a year, wreck it and did $22k worth of damages. 2 months after being repaired I traded it in for $26k.

Now that's just good luck lol
Posted by stonerolledaway
the villages
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 2:12 pm to
There is no way that buying new every three years is 'slightly more' that keeping long term. IF you like new and warranty's fine but don't kid yourself, its going to cost more being on the steep end of the depreciation curve all the time. If you want to get ahead, keep your truck, pay off the note, save up cash for the next one, keep saving the formally note cash until it earns enough interest to buy free vehicles for the rest of your life.
Posted by Retrograde
TX
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:59 pm to
It is completely doable. I had 5 vehicles in 5 years, and did not go upside down once.

There’s only a few vehicles this can be done with because they need high end of the year rebates and good resale value (which is usually an oxymoron). GM/Ford/Dodge trucks or Camrys/Accords.

For instance

At the end of 2015, let’s say you buy a 2015 LT 2wd crew cab 1500 with a 37.5k MSRP for 29k sale price, and finance 32.5k.

JD POWER for 2015 MSRPs

Now at the end of 2017, it’s been two years and your 15 Silverado is worth 25k on the LOW end (Probably worth 27k right now real money)




For a 60 month note, you are paying 600/mo and the truck is depreciating at 340$/mo. Even when factoring interest in, you would be GAINING equity by trading in every two years.

So no, don’t let anyone tell you it can’t be done because they are idiots. You need to be willing to brutaliize a dealership in negotiations though.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 4:57 am to
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be GAINING equity by trading in every two years. 


Doesn't necessarily mean it's a financially prudent idea. Keeping a vehicle longer term would still get the most out of the vehicle. I mean, you could immediately have equity if you put down enough or just paid cash.

Someone built a lease vs own spreadsheetthat I replicated when shopping for our last vehicle. If you are toying with the idea of limiting yourself to 3 years and drive 10k miles or less, leasing can be a financially better solution a lot of the time. But only when compared to traditionally owning for the same 3 year period and trading in. But we just drive significantly more than 10k miles.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:28 am to
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Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:12 am to
OP is a prime candidate for leasing, provided he’s okay getting “stuck” in the leasing cycle. It can be financially advantageous but it’s also difficult to break from.

quote:

Someone built a lease vs own spreadsheetthat I replicated when shopping for our last vehicle. If you are toying with the idea of limiting yourself to 3 years and drive 10k miles or less, leasing can be a financially better solution a lot of the time. But only when compared to traditionally owning for the same 3 year period and trading in. But we just drive significantly more than 10k miles.

I built a lease vs own spreadsheet I’ve shared a couple times here. Leasing is not for everyone, and it’s definitely not the most financially prudent option. However, if you fit the criteria like OP (low mileage, new car every 3-4 years) it can make a lot of sense over buying and selling/trading.

One note of caution though OP. Some vehicles just lease SIGNIFICANTLY better than others. I’ve never looked at lease rates/incentives on trucks. I know they offer large discounts/rebates on them, and I’m not sure if those apply to leasing as well. Remember when leasing you’re simply financing the vehicle differently, negotiating sales prices and rebates/etc are all the same (sometimes there are different incentives leasing vs buying).
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:53 am to
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Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:40 am to
There's a guy at work that does this ever year or two years. He discussed his idea with a certain dealer and they agreed on terms for an annual or bi-annual trade. Mileage is the kicker since he's on the road a lot, so as long as he meets the terms they agreed to with the trade in, he goes in and gets a new truck with all the fixins he wants on it. He gets a new truck, the dealer gets a guaranteed sale, everyone is happy.
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1491 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:03 am to
OT, I appreciated your feedback on an old thread I started on using a car broker. You mentioned you're in the auto industry and I'd be interested to speaking with you tomorrow learn more about the business. I'd appreciate your advice if you're available, let me know the best way to contact you.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 2:19 pm to
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Current truck - bought for $28k, had 5 years now worth $16k. =$200 month depreciation.


quote:

I know this doesn’t account to TT&L, but


To say it another way "I know I'm ignoring at least 10% of my cost, but I really want a new truck so I'm gonna fudge the math."

PS: Your $28,000 buy-in is really $30,800 minimum, leaving you - using your term - $246.67/month depreciation.

I hope you own your own business and make full use of the IRS Section 179.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:50 pm to
If you are only driving 10k miles a year, why trade in so often? Not to be a dick, but you aren't buying high end trucks at $30k. So I don't really understand it?

It's completely unfair to compare buying a used vehicle and driving it for years, to buying new routinely.

If you buy a used truck with say 50k miles and drove it to 120k miles in 7 years, the cost of owning that truck would be significantly less then buying new regularly. So you aren't really making a fair comparison.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 2:52 pm
Posted by theicebox
Member since Oct 2017
710 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:01 am to
First world problems, I dont know if I have the fortitude to drive a 3 year old vehicle.

Wa wa wa
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
80837 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:53 pm to
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100k miles with no major maintenance is something just about every new vehicle sold today can achieve.


My vehicle is old and high mileage and I still paid the mechanic well under $1000 this year, even counting routine maintenance like oil changes.

This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 2:47 pm
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