- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: You need evidence to allege "termination for cause" or else it's defamation.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:27 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:27 pm to lsufball19
quote:Because the only grounds to terminate for cause impugn a person's character.quote:how does that impugn his character?
By saying that it has grounds to terminate Kelly for cause.
If you call a person a criminal, it doesn't matter that you didn't specify the precise crime committed. It's defamation unless you have proof the person committed a crime.
If you call a person a liar, it doesn't matter that you didn't specify the precise lie that was told. It's defamation unless you have proof the person told a lie.
2
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:27 pm to lsufball19
quote:
how does that impugn his character?
That’s my question.
If they actually have cause to fire him, it’s not impugning his character. Kelly would’ve done that to himself.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:28 pm to Salviati
quote:
Because the only grounds to terminate for cause impugn a person's character.
said by someone who hasn't read his contract. Sorry, you have no idea what you're talking about my man
Here's a link to it (again)
LINK
look at Section II-A-1. That section defines what all would fall under bases to fire him for cause
quote:
If you call a person a criminal, it doesn't matter that you didn't specify the precise crime committed. It's defamation unless you have proof the person committed a crime.
If you call a person a liar, it doesn't matter that you didn't specify the precise lie that was told. It's defamation unless you have proof the person told a lie.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:31 pm to Salviati
Woodward blew this on the ludicrous contract to hire and the knee jerk termination to fire. LSU will pay dearly for his incompetence.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:36 pm to Salviati
Did LSU fire Coach O for cause?
Because he was rumored of doing some sketchy things as LSU HC, I thought LSU just gave him his buy-out.
LSU cannot take the moral high road, they paid one coach to go away and try not to paid another.
Because he was rumored of doing some sketchy things as LSU HC, I thought LSU just gave him his buy-out.
LSU cannot take the moral high road, they paid one coach to go away and try not to paid another.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:38 pm to theballguy
I think you are right on this but there must be a little hesitation from the Kelly camp to do this because he would have trouble getting another top job.
Maybe not sure.
Maybe not sure.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:38 pm to lsufball19
quote:I've read the contract. He's a head coach. Why do you think LSU inserted those clauses? What would an alleged violation of one of those clauses do to his employment opportunities?
Here's a link to his contract. Under II-A-1, the bases for cause are provided. There are a lot of them. Many of them are very broad. Many would not involve impugning his character.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:38 pm to Salviati
quote:
Because the only grounds to terminate for cause impugn a person's character.
quote:
e. Unreasonable refusal or repeated failure to perform any duties imposed upon Employee herein, or failing to perform the same to the best of Employee's reasonable ability;
That's one that doesn't impune character.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:40 pm to Salviati
quote:
It seems that at every conceivable inflection point, Landry or his minions have failed to plan ahead.
It doesn't look like anyone calculated whether it was cheaper to keep him for some length of time, a week, a month, the remainder of the season, etc.
It doesn't look like anyone calculated how LSU was going to fund the payout.
It doesn't look like anyone analyzed, prior to his termination, whether LSU could terminate Kelly with cause.
It doesn't look like anyone gave any thought about a replacement head coach before terminating Kelly.
In short, the whole thing looks like it was handled by a five-year-old child who just wanted to have his way.
this is a bunch of CNN like speculation
on the message boards, Kelly had people coming out and saying what they really felt about his leadership
some of that included some dirt
none of that seems fabricated, it all makes sense based on what we have observed on the feild
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:40 pm to Tvilletiger
quote:
I think you are right on this but there must be a little hesitation from the Kelly camp to do this because he would have trouble getting another top job.
Kelly is a known quantity now. Nobody’s likely to hire him, anyway.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:44 pm to lsufball19
quote:How can you so completely miss the point?
But I'm still waiting for you to tell me how firing someone for cause, in and of itself, is impugning their character.
The question is NOT whether he was fired for cause. He was NOT fired for cause.
The question is whether LSU stated that it could have fired him for cause. If LSU maintains this position, it had better have evidence that it could have fired Kelly for cause. Otherwise, it's defamation.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:49 pm to Salviati
quote:
If LSU does not concede the issue or if they don't have any evidence, there's going to be a defamation lawsuit and possibly a claim for tortious interference with contract.
Have they actually alleged this?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:52 pm to Havoc
quote:You're suggesting that a statement that a person does NOT give their best efforts, does not impugn the person? Do you know a lot of employers who will pay top dollar to those people? Do you know a lot of FBS schools looking to hire those people as a head coach?quote:That's one that doesn't impune character.
e. Unreasonable refusal or repeated failure to perform any duties imposed upon Employee herein, or failing to perform the same to the best of Employee's reasonable ability;
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:52 pm to Godfather1
quote:
quote:
I think you are right on this but there must be a little hesitation from the Kelly camp to do this because he would have trouble getting another top job.
Kelly is a known quantity now. Nobody’s likely to hire him, anyway.
It seems pretty clear he has no intention whatsoever of coaching again.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:54 pm to Salviati
quote:
You're suggesting that a statement that a person does NOT give their best efforts, does not impugn the person? Do you know a lot of employers who will pay top dollar to those people? Do you know a lot of FBS schools looking to hire those people as a head coach?
You seem to be under the impression that anything negative said or implied about a person is defamation of character.
That just isn't how it works.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:57 pm to Salviati
Put him on the sidelines Saturday. Let him fire Davis, wear a headset and coach the game. Already dumped the OC, woody is gone. frick it.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:58 pm to ValZacs
If BK wants to coach again he will. No one will hold what happened/is happening at LSU against him. If anything, he might be held in higher esteem by other schools.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:59 pm to TigerAllNightLong
quote:
would hate to be Kelly trying to rely on the integrity of the Louisiana court system.
Huh? LA jurors love giving big payouts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:10 pm to Tvilletiger
Honestly I think Kelly would rather get paid what he’s due and leave it at that. LSU admins would be smart to work out a serious payment plan right now instead of going the route of “fired for cause”.
I think this has actually spooked some of the big boosters right now and is causing a panic.
I think this has actually spooked some of the big boosters right now and is causing a panic.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:17 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
What damages? You morons just make up anything now. He was fired by LSU. That's all they've done.
Page 4 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News