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re: You got the #1 pick in draft who you drafting now
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:45 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:45 am to Lester Earl
It’s a very hard decision but I do think I take Skenes. I don’t think you look so much at draft history as you do league impact. And I still think power pitching wins in the postseason. And that’s why you gamble on Skenes.
I’d like to think Crews could impact the game like say, Mookie Betts. That’s probably best case. But if someone could get Skenes and he turns into Gerrit Cole who is a big sturdy AF dude and doesn’t miss starts, that’s pretty damn valuable too.
I’d like to think Crews could impact the game like say, Mookie Betts. That’s probably best case. But if someone could get Skenes and he turns into Gerrit Cole who is a big sturdy AF dude and doesn’t miss starts, that’s pretty damn valuable too.
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:53 am to burke985
Crews. Only because he's an every day player. But Skenes is the best pitcher by far.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:04 am to burke985
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Skenes or Crews, I’m going Skenes
If you think Crews is roughly as good, or even almost as good, at playing center field and hitting as Skenes is at pitching, you pick the guy who plays every day vs twice a week or less. The caveat is team needs.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:08 am to burke985
I would go Crews though I think Skenes will be up in the majors sooner.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:22 am to geauxtigers33
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I don't follow MLB much, but I would be shocked if they draft based on current needs
Just the latest example of people on here that keep the football mentality. Of course they don’t draft for the 2023 roster, many HS kids will be drafted even the college kids they won’t count on til 24-25 at the earliest.
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Bregman was drafted 2 overall as a shortstop when they had Correa at short.
They intended to move him from the get go, he started at 3rd in the minors immediately
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This year is a little different as Crews and Skenes have a real chance of getting September call ups this season
That would be extremely rare
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:26 am to burke985
I would pick Crews as he probably has the higher (and safer) floor. You don’t want to whiff with a pick like that.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:28 am to H-Town Tiger
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They intended to move him from the get go, he started at 3rd in the minors immediately
No he didn’t. He was drafted in 2015 and didn’t start playing third until May of 2016 about 2 months before he got called up.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:29 am to burke985
Defense wins ball games. Skenes.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:46 am to geauxtigers33
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No he didn’t. He was drafted in 2015 and didn’t start playing third until May of 2016 about 2 months before he got called up.
Yes you are correct, he played ss the rest of the summer after he was drafted moved the following year, my mistake
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:52 am to H-Town Tiger
But he was always going to move off of SS
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:54 am to Lester Earl
Of course
The also targeted him pretty much when they did not sign Brady Aiken and knew they’d get the extra pick at 2. They were hoping Az would take Swanson who most everyone has ranked 1.
The also targeted him pretty much when they did not sign Brady Aiken and knew they’d get the extra pick at 2. They were hoping Az would take Swanson who most everyone has ranked 1.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 10:06 am
Posted on 5/25/23 at 10:07 am to burke985
Does Skenes get to take the glove to the bigs or will Hurd get to keep it next year. The passing of the glove may be baseballs #18.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 10:16 am to Lester Earl
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But he was always going to move off of SS
If he was going to play for the Astros yes.
The thought from the Astros organization was either he would play another position or be trade bait. It just happened that in 2016 they needed a third baseman and he ran with the position and never looked back.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 10:31 am to H-Town Tiger
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Go check the history of pitchers taken at the top of draft vs college hitters taken at the top of the draft
In the last 20 years (number 1 picks):
7 pitchers
7 SS
3 OF
2 C
1 3B
Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:49 am to BigBinBR
And how have those guys done? 2 of the pitchers are Aiken who went unsigned, was drafted mid first the next year and needed Tommy John
Mark Appel was considered one of the best college pitching prospects and wound up being just the 3rd ever 1-1 to never make the Show
Mark Appel was considered one of the best college pitching prospects and wound up being just the 3rd ever 1-1 to never make the Show
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:09 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I’m sorry but this is simply not true. Perhaps you are confusing the qualities of elite pitchers that have made it, or the importance of those pitchers in the show but history shows pitchers taken high in the draft bust at far greater rate than elite college hitters.
When I say elite, I'm talking college pitchers taken #1 overall and I'm not talking about all of them. Guys like Price, Cole, Strasburg who are in MLB before the end of their second year in professional baseball. It's a small list and Skenes would qualify. I woun't post all the top 5 picks who were great college hitters that washed out.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:14 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Mark Appel was considered one of the best college pitching prospects and wound up being just the 3rd ever 1-1 to never make the Show
He was a bust, but made it to the show last year
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:21 pm to LSU82BILL
Trevor Bauer
Scherzer
Buehler
Verlander
Gausman
Nola
Sonny gray
I mean nothing is fool proof but college pitchers are generally safer than HS guys
Scherzer
Buehler
Verlander
Gausman
Nola
Sonny gray
I mean nothing is fool proof but college pitchers are generally safer than HS guys
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:30 pm to burke985
It always was Skenes. Give me a dominant pitcher.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:30 pm to LSU82BILL
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It's a small list and Skenes would qualify. I woun't post all the top 5 picks who were great college hitters that washed out.
So you are cherry picking to suit your argument? Drafts in general are crap shots, MLB more so than the NFL or MLB. No one said college hitters never bust, or that all pitchers do but according to baseball people the hitters have a better rate of success overall
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