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Yearly reminder Kim Mulkey places little emphasis on the SECT.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:32 am
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:32 am
Of course she wants to win, but every year she has to remind everyone that the SECT is not the goal. Seeding for the NCAAT is all but locked up so it’s for experience.
Bringing home another natty is the goal.
Bringing home another natty is the goal.
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:40 am to pwejr88
She knows what she is doing
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:44 am to jmarto1
It’s basically a home game for South Carolina
Likely will have to go thru them to win natty this season
LSU seed is all but set even if they win sec tourney it won’t get them on one line
Likely will have to go thru them to win natty this season
LSU seed is all but set even if they win sec tourney it won’t get them on one line
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:10 am to pwejr88
Seed is locked up? Are they not a 3, on the edge of becoming a 2? Or does she really not care whether it’s 2 or 3? Honestly asking cause it seems that a deep run or win of the SECT would secure a 2. They lose game 1, they’re a 3
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 7:11 am
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:12 am to pwejr88
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Of course she wants to win, but every year she has to remind everyone that the SECT is not the goal. Seeding for the NCAAT is all but locked up so it’s for experience. Bringing home another natty is the goal.
True. Kim is not going to tank but she doesn’t give a shite about the SECT.
Now it’s not impossible we win two and meet SC in the final. Again, Kim won’t tank but don’t expect her to jump up and down screaming to make that some high stakes game. She’s simply going to send her troops out to play.
I will be watching and rooting, but whether we win the thing or we are one-and-done, let’s just get through this weekend without anybody else getting hurt, return to Red Stick, and get ready for the Dance.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:18 am to pwejr88
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Yearly reminder Kim Mulkey places little emphasis on the SECT.
There is zero reason to put an emphasis on the SECT. Even in Baseball Jay doesn't put an emphasis on it. Better to put the emphasis on the NCAA Tournaments.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:34 am to pwejr88
Just like Kentucky basketball historically and LSU baseball. Certainly fun to have but there are bigger goals.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:48 am to Schmelly
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Seed is locked up? Are they not a 3, on the edge of becoming a 2? Or does she really not care whether it’s 2 or 3? Honestly asking cause it seems that a deep run or win of the SECT would secure a 2. They lose game 1, they’re a 3
LSU is a 2 seed now. During the committee reveal on Thursday before the games were played LSU was the highest 3 seed (#9 overall)
Virginia Tech lost two games this week including one to a .500 Virginia team.
I say if they get to the SEC Championship game (win two games) they keep their 2 seed. If they drop one prior they may fall back to a 3 seed but they are basically locked in to host at this point
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 7:50 am
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:57 am to pwejr88
Explain in detail what it means by little emphasis?
Does she not put together a game plan?
Does she not play her normal players their normal minutes?
Does she purposely play defenses that aren’t the most ideal against that team?
Does she purposely not call offensive plays that are likely to work?
Does she not call timeouts and when there are timeouts, does she just not do anything in them?
Does she not try to motivate the team before and during the game?
How does a coach and team play a game with little emphasis?
People who make excuses for losing are losers. Everyone loses. Recognize it, learn from it, and do better next time.
Does she not put together a game plan?
Does she not play her normal players their normal minutes?
Does she purposely play defenses that aren’t the most ideal against that team?
Does she purposely not call offensive plays that are likely to work?
Does she not call timeouts and when there are timeouts, does she just not do anything in them?
Does she not try to motivate the team before and during the game?
How does a coach and team play a game with little emphasis?
People who make excuses for losing are losers. Everyone loses. Recognize it, learn from it, and do better next time.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:29 am to timlan2057
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don’t expect her to jump up and down screaming to make that some high stakes game.
You sure? Because that's EXACTLY what she did her first year.
via Jomboy
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:37 am to TeddyPadillac
First of all, we have a 2 or 3 seed no matter what we do. It is not much difference between a 2 or 3 so nothing to fight for. Secondly, number 2 was the answer. She will rest her main players more than usual, especially with our short bench, so they will be ready for the gauntlet of the tournament. I hope that helps you both.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:27 am to JeffSpartan85
It does not help.
They are college kids in the best shape of their life, or at least supposed to be.
You play 3 games in 3 days, championship game on Sunday the 10th.
The first round of the tournament starts on the 20th.
If you can't recover from 3 games in 3 days in 10 days, you have a problem.
Pretending to not care about winning a game, and a championship, is a losers mentality.
Uconn played 5 games in 5 days to win the Big East back in 2011, and one of those games was an OT game.
they got 4 days rest and then started the NCAA tournament, and went on to win it.
The NCAA tournament is not some difficult gauntlet of games. You play two games in 3 days and then get a week off before you do it again. It's not some crazy grind of games. Nothing they do in the SECT will affect the NCAAT, and don't give me injury bullshite. That can happen any game of the year.
Last years loss to Tenn in the SECT:
Reese 31 minutes with foul trouble - season ave 33
Morris 38 minutes - season ave 34
Flaujae 38 minutes - season ave 27
Williams 35 minutes - season ave 28
Carson 20 minutes - season ave 21
Poole 23 minutes - season ave 22
Smith 11 minutes - season ave 14
Poa 5 minutes - season ave 12
But sure we put little emphasis on winning that game.
Just accept the loss and not make stupid excuses like it's not a big deal b/c is the SECT and we weren't really trying.
They are college kids in the best shape of their life, or at least supposed to be.
You play 3 games in 3 days, championship game on Sunday the 10th.
The first round of the tournament starts on the 20th.
If you can't recover from 3 games in 3 days in 10 days, you have a problem.
Pretending to not care about winning a game, and a championship, is a losers mentality.
Uconn played 5 games in 5 days to win the Big East back in 2011, and one of those games was an OT game.
they got 4 days rest and then started the NCAA tournament, and went on to win it.
The NCAA tournament is not some difficult gauntlet of games. You play two games in 3 days and then get a week off before you do it again. It's not some crazy grind of games. Nothing they do in the SECT will affect the NCAAT, and don't give me injury bullshite. That can happen any game of the year.
Last years loss to Tenn in the SECT:
Reese 31 minutes with foul trouble - season ave 33
Morris 38 minutes - season ave 34
Flaujae 38 minutes - season ave 27
Williams 35 minutes - season ave 28
Carson 20 minutes - season ave 21
Poole 23 minutes - season ave 22
Smith 11 minutes - season ave 14
Poa 5 minutes - season ave 12
But sure we put little emphasis on winning that game.
Just accept the loss and not make stupid excuses like it's not a big deal b/c is the SECT and we weren't really trying.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:38 am to pwejr88
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so it’s for experience.
i'm good with her trying different shite against USC and analyzing what works and doesnt work and holding those cards close to her vest.
i'd rather we lose to them in the SECT but pick up some clues as to how to knock them out in the NCAAs.
give USC the moral victory of a SECT title and kick their butt when it matters.
dont play your cards and beat them and give them time to study film before the tourney
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 9:48 am
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:47 am to nicholastiger
I’ll be there…
45 min from my place…
Geaux Tigers…
45 min from my place…
Geaux Tigers…
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:58 am to CAD703X
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i'm good with her trying different shite against USC and analyzing what works and doesnt work and holding those cards close to her vest.
so let's say we try something different against them for a few possesssions and it's working great. You want to stop doing it and save it for the next time you might play them?
Do you hear how stupid that sounds?
You think they won't recognize that new scheme that they had trouble with on film, and have a game plan for it next time?
If you can beat someone, then beat them. You don't lose on purpose with the hopes you're saving some special play for next time.
I guess this is yet another reason why i don't watch womens basketball. The fans are mostly delusional idiots.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:02 am to TeddyPadillac
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Explain in detail what it means by little emphasis?
Does she not put together a game plan?
Does she not play her normal players their normal minutes?
Does she purposely play defenses that aren’t the most ideal against that team?
Does she purposely not call offensive plays that are likely to work?
Does she not call timeouts and when there are timeouts, does she just not do anything in them?
Does she not try to motivate the team before and during the game?
How does a coach and team play a game with little emphasis?
If a player has been playing through injury and additional rest (or limited minutes) may be more beneficial in the bigger picture a coach may lean toward giving that player rest rather than playing them in the tournament.
A coach may also be more apt to go with different line ups longer in a game than she might in a regular season game solely for the purposes of seeing how that lineup may perform in NCAAT games. Or, in other words, she maybe less likely to have a quick hook if things aren't working as well as she would like.
She may allow players a bit more freedom in decision making and shot selection than than she otherwise would. In the NCAA Tournament is a shooter just isn't connecting or a player is having a tough day executing there is much less time to let them try to play through it. You can do so in a conf. tournament.
Maybe there comes a moment where a coach would ordinarily call a TO in a reg. season game or NCAA tournament game, but chooses not to in a conf. tournament game. For example, the opponent may go on a run where the HC would normally call a quick TO. However, in the conf. tournament game she may choose to hold off on the TO for a bit longer to see how her players respond. Maybe there is an end of half/game set where the coach may call a TO in an NCAAT game, but decides forego a TO in the SECT to see how the players respond.
I don't think Mulkey goes into any game "trying to lose". But there are subtle things in games that she may choose to approach differently in the SECT than she would in the NCAAT when there is truly no margin for error.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 10:03 am
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:05 am to pwejr88
Jay Johnson proved it doesn't matter if you win NC.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:16 am to Schmelly
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Seed is locked up? Are they not a 3, on the edge of becoming a 2? Or does she really not care whether it’s 2 or 3? Honestly asking cause it seems that a deep run or win of the SECT would secure a 2. They lose game 1, they’re a 3
I don't think they care about 2/3. I think they definitely want 3 over 4, but not at the expense of potentially making Williams unavailable for NCAA.
I think she feels like we are locked in to no less than 3, which I agree with. We were the "top" 3-seed in the reveal, and Virginia Tech (a 2) lost Sunday.
If we happen to lose to Auburn, it won't be a "bad loss" because Auburn is currently projected into the NCAA tournament. One loss isn't going to send us plunging downward to the 4-line.
Now if we were still #14 in the latest NCAA reveal, I think we would definitely be busting our arse to get some wins at SEC
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:13 am to Alt26
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If a player has been playing through injury and additional rest (or limited minutes) may be more beneficial in the bigger picture a coach may lean toward giving that player rest rather than playing them in the tournament.
They have 10 days off after the SECT.
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A coach may also be more apt to go with different line ups longer in a game than she might in a regular season game solely for the purposes of seeing how that lineup may perform in NCAAT games. Or, in other words, she maybe less likely to have a quick hook if things aren't working as well as she would like.
You had all season to do this. You know what you have now.
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She may allow players a bit more freedom in decision making and shot selection than than she otherwise would. In the NCAA Tournament is a shooter just isn't connecting or a player is having a tough day executing there is much less time to let them try to play through it. You can do so in a conf. tournament.
haha what? No good coach practices bad habits. Play the game the right way regardless of situation.
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Maybe there comes a moment where a coach would ordinarily call a TO in a reg. season game or NCAA tournament game, but chooses not to in a conf. tournament game. For example, the opponent may go on a run where the HC would normally call a quick TO. However, in the conf. tournament game she may choose to hold off on the TO for a bit longer to see how her players respond. Maybe there is an end of half/game set where the coach may call a TO in an NCAAT game, but decides forego a TO in the SECT to see how the players respond.
I get that, but that's something you generally do early in the year trying to figure out your team. YOu konw what you have now.
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I don't think Mulkey goes into any game "trying to lose". But there are subtle things in games that she may choose to approach differently in the SECT than she would in the NCAAT when there is truly no margin for error.
She' one of the most successful coaches in all of college basketball. She didn't get that way by not trying to win every game.
Look i get what you're saying in that maybe you try a few things different, but at the end of the day, i can guarantee you they are playing to win the game 100%, adn they are not goign to sacrifice a win for rest or scheme.
and don't compare baseball to basketball. how a pitching rotation is handled is completely different than a basketball teams rest.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:17 pm to TeddyPadillac
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i can guarantee you they are playing to win the game 100%, adn they are not goign to sacrifice a win for rest or scheme.
When they step on the court, they will try to win. If she thinks extra rest will benefit Williams foot in the long run, then Williams will not play.
They shut Van Lith down for almost a month in December for the same reason. I would be really surprised if Williams plays in this tournament.
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