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re: Would you be comfortable with Van Buren as QB1 next year?
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:44 am to TigahTX
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:44 am to TigahTX
Have to be honest, I can't judge a guy fairly who's been coached by Joe Sloan and Brian Kelly. I don't know what they did as coaches, but it obviously wasn't preparing these players to be their best.
A full off-season with a good offensive coach is probably needed to know what MVB's ceiling is. We still need to bring in another potential starter and a 3rd guy for depth. But, I wouldn't write off MVB because he doesn't look good after playing for this shitty coaching staff for one year.
A full off-season with a good offensive coach is probably needed to know what MVB's ceiling is. We still need to bring in another potential starter and a 3rd guy for depth. But, I wouldn't write off MVB because he doesn't look good after playing for this shitty coaching staff for one year.
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Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:45 am to hashtag
Agreed he has potential under a good coaching staff
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:48 am to hashtag
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But, I wouldn't write off MVB because he doesn't look good after playing for this shitty coaching staff for one year.
I don't think he looked bad. Definitely not elite but more poise than Nuss after a fricking lifetime of NFL-caliber coaching from his father. And in a QB, poise is what I'm looking for first and foremost.
This post was edited on 11/16/25 at 10:50 am
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:48 am to Slippy
Hell no. You at least bring in a transfer QB with starting experience to compete with him. If he wins the competition then ok but he has a ways to go as a passer and he throws a wounded bird of a deep ball. Anytime I saw him throw downfield deep, even the one or two that were caught, the ball wobbled instead of a spiral.
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:50 am to Slippy
I certainly wouldn't say it's easy to find a good QB in the portal but these days, there's always a kid looking for a bigger stage to compete on and LSU is an attractive place for that.
Doesn't hurt that our last transfer QB won a Heisman.
Doesn't hurt that our last transfer QB won a Heisman.
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:51 am to Slippy
If we get an OC and QB coach who knows what they are doing AND MVB puts in a lot of work over the offseason then absolutely. He could be another JD.
But we can’t have a shitty OC and a QB who isn’t physically or mentally prepared to do anything again. Got that this year with predictable results.
LSU should make whatever JD did mandatory if you want to start. Otherwise find your roster spot somewhere else.
But we can’t have a shitty OC and a QB who isn’t physically or mentally prepared to do anything again. Got that this year with predictable results.
LSU should make whatever JD did mandatory if you want to start. Otherwise find your roster spot somewhere else.
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:52 am to Slippy
I kinda would if he didn’t make much advancement over the offseason. I’m glad he’s getting these late season reps.
it would worry me because I would question what we had behind him. Although, if he struggled, I’m sure it wouldn’t stop some from calling for the backup
it would worry me because I would question what we had behind him. Although, if he struggled, I’m sure it wouldn’t stop some from calling for the backup
This post was edited on 11/16/25 at 10:54 am
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:53 am to Pax Regis
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LSU should make whatever JD did mandatory if you want to start. Otherwise find your roster spot somewhere else.
I'd also add bring back the summer of 10,000 passes.
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:55 am to Pax Regis
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He could be another JD.
He'll never be as fast and explosive as JD but 8 yard runs on 3rd down will win you a lot of ball games.
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:56 am to TigahTX
We're getting 1-2 QBs from the portal regardless with only walk-ons returning behind MVB. So it's just a matter of whether we get an experienced P4 starter or just depth pieces. With Hurley leaving, I imagine we'll get one of each and if MVB can win the job, great. Unless we flip Duckworth or someone, we don't have a freshman in this upcoming class.
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:58 am to Lester Earl
I expect better than “meh” as should all true fans. By the same token, I’m not expecting Heisman winners every season either.
I think that seems to be his position. At least, that’s how I read it
I think that seems to be his position. At least, that’s how I read it
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:00 am to Smokin Joe Dumas
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think that seems to be his position. At least, that’s how I read it
But do you think he might be better under Kiffin? (Not at all sure it's going to be LK but he sure seems to be the target.)
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:01 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
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All I’m saying is that if Kiffin came in, with his history, and said he can win with MVB, I’d trust him.
I can see that, and it’s a valid point. And any coach that has a similar track record.
That’s why I wouldn’t be mad if they hired Eric Morris from North Texas if they missed out on Kiffin
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:02 am to Smokin Joe Dumas
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By the same token, I’m not expecting Heisman winners every season either.
LSU does not have to have a heisman each year. They need to have one of the best QBs in the SEC each year, though. It does not even have to be the best pro prospect. But they need, and are capable of, having great QB every single year.
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:03 am to Slippy
No, he is serviceable but we are not competing for anything within as our QB.
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:06 am to LSBoosie
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I personally don’t feel great about any QB next year because I have doubts about what kind of players they will be surrounded with
Yep. Unless the new coach addresses lots of personnel, and I’m not sure how much of a problem this is versus scheme and coaching, issues on the offensive side of the ball, one player won’t be the end-all, be-all solution
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:21 am to Slippy
I would trust Kiffin to get the best version out of him.
...Trust him under another coach? No
...Trust him under another coach? No
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:37 am to Slippy
Under a "QB Guru" type HC like Kiffin, he'd get a shot. He's not an accurate enough passer to lead LSU to anything of significance. Just because he's more mobile than Nussmeier, doesn't make him an All-SEC type QB. He went to MSU for a reason. Many on here have "Rock bottom standards of Execution" that need to be elevated. Yall perfectly satisfied with "The Meds" in everything! 
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:37 am to Lester Earl
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LSU does not have to have a heisman each year. They need to have one of the best QBs in the SEC each year, though. It does not even have to be the best pro prospect. But they need, and are capable of, having great QB every single year.
Ideally, yes. Need a coaching staff that can not only identify and develop them, but also recruit them. Even though money is now a factor, when the $ offered is competitive between teams recruiting them, you have to sell the program and university.
It can be tough when you’re competing against other teams with similar resources. I mean, in reality, who were they up against for Burrow? Cincinnati? I don’t remember about Jaden, but I can’t remember programs that were pushing like LSU was.
A younger version of Cignetti would be ideal here in today’s college game
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:39 am to shinerfan
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But do you think he might be better under Kiffin
No one can know. Maybe? He seems to be more involved when he needs to be, which is more than I could say for BK
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