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Working for Coach O
Posted by nwallb2 on 1/10/21 at 12:53 pm2090
Ive read this a few times now that some assistant coaches are wary to come here bc they dont want to work for O. What exactly is the reputation he has as a boss? I understand he meddles sometimes but whats so bad about working for him that it would discourage you from competing on the biggest stage with top 5 level talent? Im just trying to understand.
re: Working for Coach OPosted by Gray Tiger on 1/10/21 at 12:59 pm to nwallb2
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Ive read this a few times
Subtle brag that you finished 8th grade.
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What exactly is the reputation he has as a boss?
You are asking a site where 99.8% of the posters have never met Coach Orgeron?
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I understand he meddles
So the boss can't give orders or make suggestions? He should just turn thing loose to run on un directed?
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whats so bad about working for him
See number 2 above
re: Working for Coach OPosted by Nissanmaxima on 1/10/21 at 12:59 pm to nwallb2
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Ive read this a few times now that some assistant coaches are wary to come here bc they dont want to work for O. What exactly is the reputation he has as a boss?
For sure can't be any worse then working for Saban and he sure doesn't seem to have issues getting coaches there.
re: Working for Coach OPosted by corym52 on 1/10/21 at 1:19 pm to Nissanmaxima
Who would you hook your coaching wagon to? Nick Saban or Ed Orgeron.... good lord.
re: Working for Coach OPosted by Big EZ Tiger on 1/10/21 at 1:40 pm to nwallb2
I have never heard anyone say this. If this was true, when O/LSU was getting hammered left and right on here after the first few games of the season, I think you would have heard this at that time.
re: Working for Coach OPosted by nwallb2 on 1/10/21 at 2:25 pm to Big EZ Tiger
I think it was Sonny on the TOS yesterday who posted Brad White DC from KY is interested in the LSU DC job just had concerns about working for Orgeron.
The guy smears everyone who doesn’t lick his arse and if you’re talking about Freeman I have zero doubt it was over scheme that he turned us down. You can believe the silly wife bullshite if you want to but nobody likes Brian Kelly, he’s a jerk. For Orgeron to lose out to that guy is a bad sign no matter what the pumpers tell you.
re: Working for Coach OPosted by Topwater Trout on 1/10/21 at 2:43 pm to nwallb2
How many coaches have turned O down?
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re: Working for Coach OPosted by Clark W Griswold on 1/10/21 at 2:57 pm to CP3forMVP
The guys Brady sent us will be the same guys who eventually leave to work with Brady.
re: Working for Coach OPosted by Madking on 1/10/21 at 3:11 pm to Clark W Griswold
Don’t buy the Brady connection, if he really wanted those type guys he should’ve hired em last year. As usual anytime he’s riding high he’s a frickup then he spends the next year correcting his blunders. The Brady hires are reactionary and were made to cover his arse and buy good will. Orgeron is a tightrope act, he’s an unstable and destructive person through and through.
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re: Working for Coach OPosted by turnpiketiger on 1/10/21 at 3:26 pm to nwallb2
I’ve heard the opposite. I’ve heard that Orgeron has been around the game a very long time. He’s been apart of numerous championship teams. He’s been around multiple great coaches including Jimmy Johnson and Pete Carrol just to name a few. I’ve heard he’s very well liked across the sport in the nfl and college level. I’ve heard he’s a likable guy and that’s why he’s able to recruit well. Did you ever think that guys don’t want to come to LSU because they’re scared to compete against the GOAT coach in Tuscaloosa as well as other notable coaches in this league? This is big boy shite. You come to LSU and prove yourself and you either get paid big time or land a HC job. It’s the way things work. Stop this “Coach O isn’t a good boss” narrative. People base this shite on the Matt Canada / Orgeron relationship. It’s been noted that Canada is the arse hole by non-LSU sources. Where’s this prick at now? He isn’t relevant I know that. If O was such a dick then why would Joe Brady help him out?
The quickness that some of our fan base is willing to turn on a head coach is insane. We’ve got some first class stupid I swear.
The quickness that some of our fan base is willing to turn on a head coach is insane. We’ve got some first class stupid I swear.
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re: Working for Coach OPosted by turnpiketiger on 1/10/21 at 3:28 pm to Clark W Griswold
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The guys Brady sent us will be the same guys who eventually leave to work with Brady.
If they land us back in the cfp or even Atlanta then it is worth it. It’s a revolving door. The days of keeping a staff around for a recruit’s full cycle are long gone. There’s always another young up and coming guy waiting for their shot. Keep it moving
re: Working for Coach OPosted by GetmorewithLes on 1/10/21 at 3:30 pm to nwallb2
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I understand he meddles sometimes but whats so bad about working for him that it would discourage you from competing on the biggest stage with top 5 level talent? Im just trying to understand.
You need to understand that this is a pretty dumb statement... He is the HC. You do what he wants. He bears responsibility for that.
I have not heard anyone complain about working for him. How many assistants left here voluntarily for lateral moves? The few that I can think of were believed to have been shown the door.
Dear diary,
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Don’t buy the Brady connection, if he really wanted those type guys he should’ve hired em last year. As usual anytime he’s riding high he’s a frickup then he spends the next year correcting his blunders. The Brady hires are reactionary and were made to cover his arse and buy good will. Orgeron is a tightrope act, he’s an unstable and destructive person through and through.
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The guy smears everyone who doesn’t lick his arse and if you’re talking about Freeman I have zero doubt it was over scheme that he turned us down. You can believe the silly wife bullshite if you want to but nobody likes Brian Kelly, he’s a jerk. For Orgeron to lose out to that guy is a bad sign no matter what the pumpers tell you
That's meaningless speculation on your part, and would be as useless as me saying only the very best coaches want to work for Orgeron / LSU, ergo Freeman was scared to compete on the big stage of the SEC and wasn't a good fit. Undoubtedly, you would disagree with this, but your argument has as little or less logic.
The decision for a coach to accept a position can be based on many factors, including perception of your boss (Kelly vs Orgeron... He might like both or neither), region (preference of South Bend vs BR for self and family), pressure (less at ND), stability of staff (probably an advantage for ND), money (usually favors LSU, though the Pelini buyout may have made LSU bid lower than they might've), and so on.
I'm not sure you're capable of holding more than one detail in your mind at once (your post comes off as hateful and petty), but if you are, then it's not too difficult to envision a myriad of scenarios in which Freeman might decide Notre Dame provides a similar upward trajectory for his career as LSU while satisfying other personal preferences he might have. It's that simple. And it's not difficult to see that LSU is a high risk / high reward place that might turn some good coaches off.
If you want to be critical of things or people, that's fine. This is The Rant. But if you're actually an LSU fan and not a troll from another school, do us all a favor, and ground your arguments in actual thought vs the drivel you just posted. Be a better person and make this board more enjoyable for other fans.
re: Working for Coach OPosted by Big EZ Tiger on 1/10/21 at 3:51 pm to nwallb2
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I think it was Sonny on the TOS yesterday who posted Brad White DC from KY is interested in the LSU DC job just had concerns about working for Orgeron.
Well that could because of uncertainty around the title IX investigations or the fact that Pelini lasted one season and is gone, but I haven't heard anything about Orgeron being really difficult to work with or anything. Obviously, Canada and him bumped heads and that didn't work out long-term (which was at least partly O's fault for sure), but Aranda was at LSU for a some years with O until he was offered a head coaching job, Ensminger was good with him and Corey Raymond, etc., are still with him.
re: Working for Coach OPosted by tiggah1981 on 1/10/21 at 3:53 pm to Nissanmaxima
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For sure can't be any worse then working for Saban and he sure doesn't seem to have issues getting coaches there.
difference is saban has proven it for years that when coordinators come and go saban still runs his team like a well oiled machine
Ed doesn’t have a track record that compares and his coaching tree is nowhere near sabans is, like it’s not even worthy of comparison.
Any coach that surrounds himself with top coordinators are going to be successful, so what is so special about Ed besides his binder?
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