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re: Working for Coach O
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:12 pm to CP3forMVP
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:12 pm to CP3forMVP
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I mean Joe Brady just sent two of his better guys our way, one that worked under O once before. Must not be to bad.
Brady, blah, blah, blah... hey, Carolina was 5-11 this year with a pretty bad passing attack. I know he isn't to blame for the record but I wasn't impressed. I don't think he is the "genius" you all confess he is, and as far as those (2) guys Orgeron hired, neither one of them impress me. Maybe they might have some success but I wouldn't put my money on it. Brady just came along during a lightning in a bottle season with elite receivers and a generational QB. Not saying the guy is a bad passing game coordinator but you can't judge him on 1 season,
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:27 pm to Madking
It was more than just one thing. If you can't figure that out then i feel sorry for you.
He is from up north
He is Catholic. Notre Dame is like the holy land for catholics
He wants to be a head coach
I said from the beginning o better have a strong number 2
He is from up north
He is Catholic. Notre Dame is like the holy land for catholics
He wants to be a head coach
I said from the beginning o better have a strong number 2
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:33 pm to Chalkywhite84
Honestly have no idea what you’re trying to say. The Catholic holy land? Lmfao boy are you wrong. He wants to be a head coach? Is that what he was hired to be? I didn’t say “what it was” I said it wasn’t the singular silly excuse they gave which happens to be exactly what you’re telling me. So I guess you should feel sorry for yourself.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:34 pm to nwallb2
Trolling are you.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:39 pm to nwallb2
Canada gone after 1 season
Pelini gone after 1 season (along with the better part of the staff)
That COULD be part of the wariness, whether those independent actions were deserved or not.
Pelini gone after 1 season (along with the better part of the staff)
That COULD be part of the wariness, whether those independent actions were deserved or not.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:40 pm to Gray Tiger
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You are asking a site where 99.8% of the posters have never met Coach Orgeron?
Ah, the old “you’ve never done it so how do you know” crap.
This is your go-to and it never works. Experience is not the only prerequisite for any sort of commentary on anything. You can read, hear, speculate, listen—all factors that can go into formulating an opinion.
There have been enough reports about coach O clashing with his assistants to at least allow one to take it into consideration, with a grain of salt.
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Subtle brag that you finished 8th grade.
You didn’t learn to read until the 8th grade?
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:43 pm to CFF lover
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Not saying the guy is a bad passing game coordinator but you can't judge him on 1 season,
When you compare the previous season and past decade or more of LSU’s offense, I would argue it would be quite OK to judge him on his one season here.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:48 pm to Madking
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unprovoked vitriol
1) My post is a direct response to your trollish post that made me wonder if you're an LSU fan, therefore it's not unprovoked. Your post I responded to was, in contrast, intentionally provocative.
2) You might have to point out the part of my post that you qualify as "vitriol" as I don't see it. I think the strongest thing I said was where I took a little jab at you wondering if you could hold the complexities of Freeman's decision in your mind (based on your vitriolic post). And I specifically gave you an out, and merely asked you to be more grounded in your reasoning. That's hardly more than a subtle jab to challenge you to consider your words. I doubt you find me asking you to be a better person vitriolic? Or do you?
And I think projection would require that I'm taking a hard stance against something, when the entirety of my post is about being open minded and civil for the sake of everyone. Aside from what I thought was a subtle jab to challenge you, where was I projecting anything that promoted closed thinking or speaking out against anything aside from vitriol itself?
Anyway, I'm not terribly interested in arguing, and I think you get my point:
Arguments are good. Inflammatory statements like you originally made that you can't back up are counterproductive in my opinion... And can become the basis for the OP thinking he's heard other coaches disparage Orgeron. (fwiw, lots of fans and coaches made light of Les Miles acumen, and that didn't stop Miles from attracting some good assistants: namely Aranda. Though I also admit it might've been difficult for Miles to ever get a good OC that ran a pass heavy spread to come.)
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:52 pm to Nix to Twillie
The smears are public, Canada, Brady, Aranda, any player that leaves or opts out of even games, recruits that don’t come. These comments are public record and have started many an argument or false narrative on the Rant. If people choose to believe it’s always everyone else and never the constant in these scenarios that’s fine but to claim it’s made up is just not true.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:54 pm to nwallb2
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Ive read this a few times now that some assistant coaches are wary to come here bc they dont want to work for O
No you didn't
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:54 pm to epbart
Again you make false accusations and engage in smear tactics. And then of course you didn’t do anything you did, you’re the beacon of civility and integrity around here lol. Jesus man take a step back and get a hold of yourself, have at least a shred of self awareness. I never responded to your post so no there was no provocation on my part, you attacked me. So gets your facts straight buddy but I can tell facts aren’t your thing, slander is more your speed.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 5:25 pm to Madking
I already asked you to point out my vitriol you accused me of. You haven't. I even speculated the only thing I thought it could be. I now ask you again. I literally don't see anything in either of my posts that halfway approaches vitriol.
Of course, now you're switching from accusing me of "unprovoked vitriol" to making "false accusations" and using "smear tactics". Where?
I'm open to hearing you out. Just quote me on where I did anything you're suggesting and don't trying to reframe it as me trying to avoid anything then trying to criticize me with a different word (first it was vitriol, now it's smear tactics...). I'm not avoiding anything and both of my posts are consistent. I'm just asking you where I'm guilty of what you're accusing me of.
I get that you don't like being criticized (who does?). But aside from you not liking what I said (fine, you're entitled to your opinion), where did I use vitriol, false accusations or smear tactics?
If I don't have self awareness, enlighten me. I'm flat out telling you I don't see anything you're accusing me of.
Of course, now you're switching from accusing me of "unprovoked vitriol" to making "false accusations" and using "smear tactics". Where?
I'm open to hearing you out. Just quote me on where I did anything you're suggesting and don't trying to reframe it as me trying to avoid anything then trying to criticize me with a different word (first it was vitriol, now it's smear tactics...). I'm not avoiding anything and both of my posts are consistent. I'm just asking you where I'm guilty of what you're accusing me of.
I get that you don't like being criticized (who does?). But aside from you not liking what I said (fine, you're entitled to your opinion), where did I use vitriol, false accusations or smear tactics?
If I don't have self awareness, enlighten me. I'm flat out telling you I don't see anything you're accusing me of.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 5:38 pm to epbart
Again nothing but projection and hypocrisy. Here’s a couple of your attacks and false accusations.
-“I’m not sure you’re capable of holding more than one detail in your mind at once”
-your Trolling post made me wonder if you’re an LSU fan”
Nobody is switching anything and there’s plenty more like hypocritical statements, unsubstantiated claims and outright falsities I didn’t wanna touch because you wouldn’t take responsibility for them as you’re illustrating now. Claiming to be civil “for everyone’s sake” while doing the exact opposite. What a truly false and self serving statement.
-“I’m not sure you’re capable of holding more than one detail in your mind at once”
-your Trolling post made me wonder if you’re an LSU fan”
Nobody is switching anything and there’s plenty more like hypocritical statements, unsubstantiated claims and outright falsities I didn’t wanna touch because you wouldn’t take responsibility for them as you’re illustrating now. Claiming to be civil “for everyone’s sake” while doing the exact opposite. What a truly false and self serving statement.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 5:54 pm to epbart
But let’s go beyond your pettiness and deifying a man because of his title. What I said is all public, none of it is made up. Orgeron smeared Canada after he signed an NDA, he lied about Greedy Williams and Arik Gilbert, he’s taken shots at Aranda and Brady in the press, he smeared 18 year olds just for choosing other schools. All these things are public unlike your false claims about Canada which are all from Orgeron and his media, not “non-LSU sources”. Blind loyalty to a man isn’t loyalty to LSU so maybe you should evaluate your own fandom.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 7:18 pm to epbart
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If you want to be critical of things or people, that's fine. This is The Rant. But if you're actually an LSU fan and not a troll from another school, do us all a favor, and ground your arguments in actual thought vs the drivel you just posted. Be a better person and make this board more enjoyable for other fans.
Attaboy. Well put.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 7:33 pm to nwallb2
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Ive read this a few times
Were you the author, reading your own post?
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:17 pm to drexyl
This is a dumb arse take, there have never been any rumors that O is hard to work for. This is the Rant Bull-shite.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:20 pm to nwallb2
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meddles
One of the most over used words on this site...
Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:10 am to Madking
You really are mad
Posted on 1/11/21 at 6:17 am to Gray Tiger
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So the boss can't give orders or make suggestions? He should just turn thing loose to run on un directed?
I’m not going to say that this is wrong as a general concept, but if you’re going to base your job interview in no small part on “hiring the best coordinators”, then shouldn’t you shut up and let those coordinators do what they’re best at doing?
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