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re: Why have Nuss’ Heisman Odds gotten worse?
Posted on 10/24/24 at 4:20 pm to Mobiletiggah
Posted on 10/24/24 at 4:20 pm to Mobiletiggah
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He’s going to need 3500 yards passing minimum to be in the conversation. The current pace, especially the last two games doesn’t get him there.
You’re talking straight out of your arse. He’s almost 30ypg ahead of what he needs to throw for 3500 yards in a 12 game season. He’s barely under that pace in the last 2 games even with a 233 yard game against Arkansas where we didn’t need to push the ball downfield at all for the entire 4th quarter and just ran the ball and dink and dunked for almost a 10 min drive to seal the game.
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If LSU were to win the SEC and make the finals in the NC, the stats might not have to be that good. The other QBs competitors have an advantage because of their schedules.
Again, talking straight out of your arse. The heisman is awarded well before the national title game
This post was edited on 10/24/24 at 4:22 pm
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Posted on 10/24/24 at 4:41 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
Heisman odds are stupid because they have no way of knowing how the voters will vote. This isn't like predicting something that will happen on the field.
It isn't even like a political race where they can poll focus groups.
It isn't even like a political race where they can poll focus groups.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 4:51 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Heisman odds are stupid because they have no way of knowing how the voters will vote.
Well yeah, that's the point, you're not supposed to be able to know that. Gambling requires a degree of uncertainty.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 5:30 pm to alschroed
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Nus has slow feet and can not get away from the rush.
And yet, he has only been sacked twice.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 5:33 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
Glad Nuss is ours, but it’d be nice to see him stop overthrowing our receivers by at least 10 yards on almost every deep ball.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 5:34 pm to TeddyPadillac
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I took Nuss to win the Heisman before the season started as well at +5500 What crappy arse book did you find that had him at +2200?
No you didn’t, his odds were never that high. That crappy arse book that I took him at was called Draft Kings, not sure if you’ve ever heard of it
Posted on 10/24/24 at 5:38 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
Couple reasons
1. Guys are pulling away. Everybody is watching Miami and Bouse St for Ward and Jeanty. Now that Gabriel has beaten Ohio St and looked damn good doing it, he has shot up odds boards.
2. Nuss has been going backwards in efficency and stats. Before the last two games he was completing 70.3% of his passes averaging 8.3 yards per attempt, and was on pace for 4044 yards and 36 TDs to 10 ints in 12 games. Now he is completing 65.3% of his passes, averaging 7.8 ypa, and is on pace for 3860 yards 31 TDs to 11 ints. While that is still elite (im pretty sure he would finish top 8 in the country with those numbers), that's nowhere near heisman level.
I feel like he'll get back on track this game, and have a field day vs Bama.
1. Guys are pulling away. Everybody is watching Miami and Bouse St for Ward and Jeanty. Now that Gabriel has beaten Ohio St and looked damn good doing it, he has shot up odds boards.
2. Nuss has been going backwards in efficency and stats. Before the last two games he was completing 70.3% of his passes averaging 8.3 yards per attempt, and was on pace for 4044 yards and 36 TDs to 10 ints in 12 games. Now he is completing 65.3% of his passes, averaging 7.8 ypa, and is on pace for 3860 yards 31 TDs to 11 ints. While that is still elite (im pretty sure he would finish top 8 in the country with those numbers), that's nowhere near heisman level.
I feel like he'll get back on track this game, and have a field day vs Bama.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 6:05 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
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No you didn’t, his odds were never that high. That crappy arse book that I took him at was called Draft Kings, not sure if you’ve ever heard of it
You know what?
You are correct. I’m an idiot.
I did get him at +2200 before the season started.
I made another bet on him after the South Carolina game at +5500.
My bad. I accept my deserved ridicule.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 6:07 pm to WaterLink
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Well yeah, that's the point, you're not supposed to be able to know that. Gambling requires a degree of uncertainty.
No shite. But this is different than a sporting event.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 6:10 pm to Skillet
quote:Some of it is by design, CBK did it with JD5 his 1st season as well. Overthrown, out of bounds & not an int.
it’d be nice to see him stop overthrowing our receivers by at least 10 yards on almost every deep ball.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 6:17 pm to wrongRob
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Some of it is by design, CBK did it with JD5 his 1st season as well. Overthrown, out of bounds & not an int.
Or Sack
He could take 24 sacks like Sanders to boost his other stats.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 6:28 pm to wrongRob
So here’s the thing, I see pole pole saying he’s falling behind after the last two games but I don’t necessarily think that is correct for these few reasons:
1. Peoples definition of the heisman is diffrent and never made clear. Some ppl are all about stats, and some look at the player leading the way on a team that is contending to be in a playoff ( but with good stats even if they are not leading the nation). So I think Heisman is looked at diffrent by many barring which you perfer to define it by.
2. Usually, the final 3-4 Heisman contenders is political and each side of the country has a representative in it, and although Nuss’s stats may have dropped a little, in our region (the South) the other candidates have played like shite Milroe, Beck, Ewers. Therefore I think Nuss is still on the incline
Finnally, after watching Pollack grill Todd Mcshay about when he’s gonna put Nuss as the the number one Qb prospect in the draft is showing ppl are taking notice to just how good of a Passer Nuss is and all of his tools. So I don’t think this fight is over, in fact I think the Nuss for heisman is about to heat up, especially if he doesn’t trip up against TAMU or Bama
As a side note, let’s just appreciate and enjoy the ride, it feels good to be in a playoff race, it’s been awhile fellas
1. Peoples definition of the heisman is diffrent and never made clear. Some ppl are all about stats, and some look at the player leading the way on a team that is contending to be in a playoff ( but with good stats even if they are not leading the nation). So I think Heisman is looked at diffrent by many barring which you perfer to define it by.
2. Usually, the final 3-4 Heisman contenders is political and each side of the country has a representative in it, and although Nuss’s stats may have dropped a little, in our region (the South) the other candidates have played like shite Milroe, Beck, Ewers. Therefore I think Nuss is still on the incline
Finnally, after watching Pollack grill Todd Mcshay about when he’s gonna put Nuss as the the number one Qb prospect in the draft is showing ppl are taking notice to just how good of a Passer Nuss is and all of his tools. So I don’t think this fight is over, in fact I think the Nuss for heisman is about to heat up, especially if he doesn’t trip up against TAMU or Bama
As a side note, let’s just appreciate and enjoy the ride, it feels good to be in a playoff race, it’s been awhile fellas
Posted on 10/24/24 at 6:38 pm to TeddyPadillac
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You know what? You are correct. I’m an idiot. I did get him at +2200 before the season started. I made another bet on him after the South Carolina game at +5500. My bad. I accept my deserved ridicule
No worries baw, hopefully we can ride some magic and go undefeated and both of our tickets cash
Posted on 10/24/24 at 7:37 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
He was "good" against the only two teams with a pulse we've played. Him throwing deep balls that look like shite every 3rd pass has been legit bad.
"Good" players don't win heismans.
"Good" players don't win heismans.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 7:59 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
He is in 7th in current odds. Some of the leaders don't play a decent schedule. If he does well the next few games and we win, he will be shooting up the charts.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:04 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
Bro, Nuss isn’t anywhere near Heisman caliber, maybe next year, like Burow was in his SECOND year.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:06 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
Because the fact that he cant throw the over the top deep ball accurately has been on full display the last two games
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:12 pm to Blueghost1978
LOL the season is only half over. He has started 7 games. He will likely be great down the stretch and lead us to SEC Champ Game Appearance. He is MUCH better than Burrow his 1st year starting at LSU.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:17 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
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Nuss hasn’t been climbing up the board on the Heisman odds, in fact, the opposite has happened.
Climbing up the boards, to me, typically means he is passing people, not necessarily increasing his odds. As the leaders separate themselves, other players may see their odds get worse while simultaneously getting better than a player who was ahead of them the week before.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:08 am to NeilArmstrong1969
Because he has yet to run anyone over.
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