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re: Why can’t Will Wade be rehired?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:43 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:43 am to thunderbird1100
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Wade is under a 2 year show cause that ends after this season is over in June. Thats why no big name has run out to hire him. He has a lot of recruiting restrictions and other things he has to answer to the NCAA about until the end of this season.
He was suspended the first 10 games at McNeese last year, and again has recruiting restrictions on top of that until close to the end of June.
His entire team at McNeese was basically portal'd in.
and yet his 8-5 McNeese team has a higher NET ranking than 11-4 LSU does right now. They lost by 8 and 3 playing at Bama and Moo St. Let's see how McMahon fairs against those teams.
I haven't had season tickets since Wade was fired. I'd get season tickets in a heartbeat if he was rehired. I can't imagine Will Wade would feel uncomfortable in any way coming back to the school that fired him, b/c the fanbase would love him again. Hell he probably would have a lot of leverage in negotiating a rehire, especially if word breaks out that there's a chance he might get rehired and the support comes flowing from the fanbase.
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:54 am to NoGeaux
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You are asking about Wade like he is a hot commodity and every D1 AD is trying to hire him. It’s not Scott only that isn’t interested.
His first contract at McNeese was 200k (yes he got a raise for year 2 up to 700k) it’s not like AD’s are lined up to hire him.
Wade earned this purgatory. Will he get another shot at a mid major or a power conf? Probably.
But the list of AD’s that will put their career on the line and trust Wade just doesn’t exist right now
His sanctions are over after this season, and the alleged conduct that led to his firing (paying recruits) is not only "legal", but openly viewed as absolutely necessary. That means there is no need for clandestine phone calls about strong offers. Those can essentially take place out in the open.
And what most people fail to recognize is just how unbelievably ridiculous the set of circumstances were that led to his downfall. People talk about him being "sloppy" by talking on the phone. However, those types of conversations were completely commonplace in college basketball for DECADES. Coaches would probably have a 1/2 dozen phone calls per day with "runners".
What was unusual was that for the FIRST TIME in ~100 year history of college basketball the DOJ/FBI found it necessary to investigate college basketball recruiting. And the ONLY reason they did is because the Southern District of NY US attorney's office wanted publicity. That's it! This wasn't some major crime that the DOJ needed to stop. This whole ridiculous episode had nothing to do with college basketball when it started. NOTHING!
For those who don't know, the DOJ nailed a ham and egg financial advisor in Pittsburgh who was defrauding professional athletes. To save his own arse he offered up a more scalations investigation. One that involved the biggest sneaker companies in the world and college basketball. That was certainly going to get the DOJ more publicity than just some bozo in Pittsburgh. So the FBI started investigating a recruiting "runner" the Pittsburgh guy knew. They decided to use charges against him as a conduit to get to more widely known entities (Nike and Adidas) and people (college basketball coaches). No coach EVER should have remotely considered that one of the dozens of runners/middle men they talk to about recruiting on a daily basis would be wearing a wire as part of an FBI investigation. The reason is because the FBI wasting time and resources to investigate college basketball recruiting was so far outside the realm of possibility it was laughable.
Ultimately, the DOJ arrested several assistant coaches in a very public spectacle. They held a press conference touting how the case was going to forever change college sports. Wade was not one of the coaches arrested. In fact, he, nor his wiretap conversations were EVER a part of the actual criminal case. The FBI/DOJ could not have cared any less about those particular conversations. They only became public because the attorney for the "runner" leaked them to the press...who is desperate for ANY salacious story they can sell.
What ultimately came of the entire case was not a "fundamental change" in college sports. It was a few assistant coaches receiving less than 1 year criminal sentences for (relatively speaking) minor crimes. Soon thereafter the entire episode would be rendered totally irrelevant with the institution of NIL. Those crimes the DOJ desperately wanted to "protect the public from" became irrelevant because offering pay-for-play is now the normal course of business.
Wade will likely go down as the last college coach ever fired in response to pay-for-play allegations.
And now you know the rest of the story....
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:01 am to pwejr88
I agree, once again The General was ahead of the times.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:03 am to josh336
quote:I can think of millions of reasons.
Why would he want to come back here after how he was treated by the administration?
He wasn’t innocent in his sacking. And on the other hand he’s already proven he can have success at the highest level of college basketball during his stint here. It’s mutually beneficial for him to return.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:16 am to CatfishJohn
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McMahon has recruited well and the program is in fine condition other than the W/L columns,
Huh?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:18 am to pwejr88
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Why can’t Will Wade be rehired?
give it up. it's not happening.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:41 am to monsterballads
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give it up. it's not happening.
While I don't' think I would say it is likely to happen, I wouldn't totally dismiss the idea either. For a few reasons.
1. Wade is the only LSU coach in, at least, the last 40 years who was fired against most of the fanbases' wishes and for reasons other than poor on field/court success (or at least not "enough" success). Bertman retired. Saban left on his own accord. Every other major coach was either fired for underperforming or "encouraged" to retire for such (Mainieri). That means you have a large portion of the fanbase who would welcome him back.
2. More importantly, he still has good relationships with the booster/donors. They didn't really want to see him go. In fact, it was his suspension at the end of the 18-19 season that led to the fan and donors uprising that ultimately got Alleva fired and brought Woodward to LSU. There is very much an argument to be made that without Wade, Woodward is not the LSU AD right now (or, at least it would have been a few years later before Alleva was fired).
3. Many times when a new HC is hired one of his first orders of business is learning the school and, more important than ever today, building relationships with the donors. In large part LSU is the ONLY major conference school in which Wade could jump into seamlessly because he already has the relationships build with the donors, and has maintained them (to some degree) while continuing to coach in the state of Louisiana.
4. The risk of a repeat offense is low. Paying players is now not only "legal", it's understood as the most necessary aspect of roster building. Thus, there is no need for closed door meetings about it or secret phone calls. Coaches can openly talk about the need to pay players and the amounts they are receiving.
5. The stigma of past bad acts has largely been rendered irrelevant. Arkansas recently rehired Bobby Petrino. Hugh Freeze is at another SEC school. Same for Bruce Pearl. If you are an AD you know major college sports is not some altruistic endeavor. It's a multi-million dollar business where results are generally the only thing that matters. Fans happily forgive cheating. They DON'T forgive losing.
Other than having to deal with the faux outrage of the ever virtue signaling media...who are become more and more irrelevant by the day, there is no real logical reason to not consider rehiring the HC who led the program to its most sustained level of success in (at the time) 30 years.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:44 am to pwejr88
Chicken needs to start a Will Wade board.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:50 am to CatfishJohn
quote:This is some Mickey Loomis shite here. Look past the results.
the program is in fine condition other than the W/L columns
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:52 am to geauxpurple
quote:It would get more traction than the remaining MBB game threads.
Chicken needs to start a Will Wade board.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:53 am to pwejr88
Let's rehire him. All that bullshite is in the past, man
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:00 am to CatfishJohn
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McMahon has recruited well and the program is in fine condition other than the W/L columns
Good, means Will Wade can win here immediately
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:04 am to rutiger
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McMahon has recruited well and the program is in fine condition other than the W/L columns,
Huh?
What do you mean huh? We have a pretty good roster, we're getting a new arena, and the next coach, should he come, isn't coming into any sanctions or anything like that. How is that complicated for people to understand?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:05 am to pwejr88
He can't win in March
No matter how much his worshippers Kiss His arse
No matter how much his worshippers Kiss His arse
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:09 am to LSUFanMizeWay
At least he can make it to March.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:17 am to pwejr88
Will Wade ended up at McNeese, went 22-2 and is still there. If he was "touchable", big time programs would have hired him.
LSU gets flak for releasing him, yet nobody else is picking him up.
LSU gets flak for releasing him, yet nobody else is picking him up.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:18 am to The Pirate King
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Because he's an idiot who earned his firing and will never be back at LSU.
He’s an idiot that took LSU basketball to consistent heights it hasn’t seen in a very long time.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:07 am to pwejr88
Wade will be the head coach for LSU MBB next year if McMahon continues to lose(likely)
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:13 am to EPORE
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:14 am to MeanStreak
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Will Wade. Many look admirably in his tenure, and for good reason, but he’s gone and he isn’t coming back.
WW wants to come back, and conversations have been had behind the scenes to possibly facilitate this. MM sucks and is an embarrassment to LSU. . You heard it here 1st...
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:14 am to EPORE
Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope
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