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re: What’s the deal with TD’s beef and Myles, has his talent topped out?

Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by studentsect
Member since Jan 2004
2259 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:53 pm to
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So the question is: do you put 100% of the blame for the 2 losses on Brennan?

Run game was atrocious
Play calling was bad and it remained bad most of the season (especially in the Redzone and on 3rd down)
Defense 44 and 45 points.

We have a whole new coaching staff because those problem not only continues after Brennan got hurt, but they continues with new OC and DCs.


Obviously Brennan does not get 100% of the blame for the losses.

Nearly everything about the team ranged from awful to mediocre. Brennan was on the mediocre end.

But the fact remains that had he played better at the end of 2 of his 3 games, LSU would've had two more wins.

It may not be fair, but QB is the only position where "record as a starter" is a thing that people track.

The important thing is to win football games.

Close losses suck.

Brennan had several chances to put together game winning drives and could not do it.

I'm not sure I could be any more clear about this:

Brennan had the ball in his hands in close games against two shite teams with chances to win and we lost both.

If Brennan had been pulled with 4 possessions left against State or 6 possessions left against Mizzou and replaced by Max Johnson or TJ Finley (both of whom are mediocre at best), I think LSU would have won at least one of those games. My reasoning is that I have seen them both score touchdowns at the end of close games leading to LSU victories against defenses that were better than the ones Brennan failed against.

Maybe without Brennan those aren't one possession games in the fourth - but I don't care about an ability to keep us close and then lose at the end. I'm not willing to accept shite 4th quarter performances in exchange for a bunch of passing yards in the first 3.

I want Ws.
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
1738 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:55 pm to
Arm Talent all day long but is rich as hell and does not work as hard as the other QB's. It's just that simple!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66575 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:58 pm to
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My reasoning is that I have seen them both score touchdowns at the end of close games leading to LSU victories against defenses that were better than the ones Brennan failed against.


You have also seen both of them get blown the frick out because the defense didn’t keep it close.

It’s nice to be “clutch” but both of them have also just been bad. And neither is an option.

This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278454 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:08 pm to
There’s no use in talking why when you think that the discussion ends by comparing a tFr performance vs a Sr, both with tiny sample sizes. This is just ignorant clown stuff
Posted by NicotineFree2022
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2022
624 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:13 pm to
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I don't care about an ability to keep us close and then lose at the end. I'm not willing to accept shite 4th quarter performances in exchange for a bunch of passing yards in the first 3.



Bingo
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66575 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:21 pm to
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There’s no use in talking why when you think that the discussion ends by comparing a tFr performance vs a Sr, both with tiny sample sizes. This is just ignorant clown stuff


Stop blaming me because you can’t make a compelling argument.

The discussion is ending there because you refuse to bring up anything else.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47896 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:32 pm to
You gotta watch everything Lester says because he’s the most dishonest poster on the board. For example 3rd down % is a team stat not a passing stat. Some of those unconverted 3rd downs were runs we didn’t get that Brennan converted on 4th and short or 3rd and 10+ yards where we completed a pass just short and then converted on 4th so he takes a positive and disguises it as a negative to bash the QB by being dishonest. You’ll find that in every post he makes.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66575 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:34 pm to
I’m also not completely close minded. Is there a chance Nuss is incredible? Sure. But the hype hasn’t changed since last year before the Arkansas game. And there is no reason for the hype.
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:38 pm to
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He also can't out run the average nursing home resident and hasn't played in two years due to injury.


I implore you and every other idiot that says this to go compare his 40 times to Burrows his final season. It’s out there easy search on draft sites. Please please do and when you see it please come back and share it with the rest of the idiots who think this.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66575 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:40 pm to
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I implore you and every other idiot that says this to go compare his 40 times to Burrows his final season. It’s out there easy search on draft sites.


I dont Think anyone has an accurate 40
On Brennan right now, but he isn’t as much a statue as people act
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47896 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:44 pm to
Of course, it’s obvious he has talent but it’s not about Nuss. The same people pretending Nuss is Patrick Mahomes, they’ve literally compared the two, are the same posters who used this same line of attack to try and make Max Johnson into Joe Burrow 2.0 last summer. They either created alters or just deny it now but it’s the same people.
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:45 pm to
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I dont Think anyone has an accurate 40 On Brennan right now, but he isn’t as much a statue as people act


It’s out there on pre nfl draft sites. I’ve seen it. Wingspan 40 h/w. Then you can go back to previous classes at their measurables before the draft
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47896 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:45 pm to
You can watch the first 10 pass attempts vs Missouri to debunk the “statue” and “can’t handle pressure” narratives. Videos have been posted but these people just pretend they don’t see em.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66575 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:46 pm to
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It’s out there on pre nfl draft sites. I’ve seen it. Wingspan 40 h/w. Then you can go back to previous classes at their measurables before the draft


They have it on their website but where and when did they get it?
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278454 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

I’m also not completely close minded. Is there a chance Nuss is incredible?


Nope. Sorry Sammy, this thread will live on as proof you don’t not really think this way.

He’s the same guy as he was as a freshmen, nothing has changed!!

Noted
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
3926 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

In the 4th quarter of the Mississippi State game, Myles put up a total of 7 points. Myles and our offense was 5 for 17 on 3rd downs in this loss and his QBR was 45.1. In the 4th quarter of the Missouri game, Myles put up a total of 0 points. Myles and our offense was 0 for 10 on 3rd downs in this loss and his qbr was 74.1. You can say what you want to about his total yards and touchdowns, but when it really mattered, Myles wasn't impressive. These were very bad teams and very bad defenses that we lost to that year.

A lot of people on here are of the mindset that "Myles is the starter until he isn't." This just isn't true. I think Nuss has a much higher ceiling than Myles and he's better suited to run this offense. I think we'll see Myles back in the portal just like Brody Miller predicted several months ago.





Ah yes, the good ole games that only have one quarter and happen to be the fourth. These are my favorite kinds of games. Like picking cherries
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
6250 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 2:40 pm to
Y’all’s memory is terrible. Y’all don’t remember the Myles Brennan looking like he was 275 pounds picture? It’s literally all this board talked about for a week.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64689 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:25 pm to
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No reason to believe he can though. I’ve never seen it.

You’ve seen Brennan start 3 games in 5 years. What have you really seen him do?
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45134 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:40 pm to
No beef with him at all. If he wins the job I will support him 100%. But I would prefer Nuss or Daniels win it because I look at this a multi year thing. I am more concerned with building the program than just one year of success.
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
6576 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

implore you and every other idiot that says this to go compare his 40 times to Burrows his final season. It’s out there easy search on draft sites. Please please do and when you see it please come back and share it with the rest of the idiots who think this.


I implore you to go watch the three games he has played in two years and see how fricking slow and plodding he is when running and how unathletic he is in pocket moves.
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