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Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:16 am to Lester Earl
Cannot say much aside from the fact that Edward Orgeron had completely destroyed the program from the inside out and top to bottom. Myles may be a very capable QB when all is said and done, but what happened in '20 is not very informative.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:16 am to GeauxJZK
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And Miss St’s QB set an SEC single game record and then got benched two weeks later. Let’s stop pretending 2020 was a normal account of peoples abilities.
We are only allowed to base our decisions off of the set of data provided.
And why is 2020 an outlier? It obviously transferred to the 2021 season.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:38 am to SammyTiger
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I’ve seen Brennan make throws and light up a defense.
When was this? He’s never “lit” anyone up
I don’t think you know what that means
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:40 am to studentsect
Our defense help Arkansas and Florida to 24 and 34.
They were close games
Because they sucked at leading TD drives any other time.
Miss State and Missouri were close BECAUSE of Brennan.
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It's not even hypothetical. I can say with 100% certainty that Max Johnson and TJ Finley, who were on the team with Brennan, did a better job of leading scoring drives at the end of close games.
They were close games
Because they sucked at leading TD drives any other time.
Miss State and Missouri were close BECAUSE of Brennan.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:42 am to SammyTiger
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have Not see Nuss do that. I have No reason to believe he will do that
Such an ignorant statement. Good god Sammy
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:45 am to Lester Earl
You can’t make an argument for Nuss other than “his teammates like him”
Which is a shite argument and you know it.
Which is a shite argument and you know it.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:53 am to studentsect
quote:Way later in the season. Are we just going to ignore the fact that LSU was replacing everybody and none of them got to practice together because of covid? Of course most of the team was operating better later in the season. Because they finally had some time to practice together.
Ok but IT WAS THE SAME PLAYERS!
quote:The run game didn't magically get better. Jack Marucci walked into the coaches office and showed them that the running scheme was about as sophisticated as a caveman painting. That was very well documented in 2020.
If the running game for a team somehow magically works significantly better when you replace mediocre QB1 with mediocre QB2 and QB3, I'm not sure how that should be considered a point in QB1's favor...
If Brennan's presence on the field makes the LSU running game worse, then that is a bad thing.
Myles didn't make the running game any worse, and I can promise you Finley or Johnson didn't make the running game any better. The running game improved for the reasons mentioned above. Once that occurred the team became more balanced and better able to move the ball down the field.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:54 am to SammyTiger
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Miss State and Missouri were close BECAUSE of Brennan.
Vs Miss St
Lsu fumbled Rec at midfield- lsu punt
LSU pick 6, TD defense
LSU INT Eli ricks midfield - offfense TD
LSU fumble recovery at MSU 23- FG lsu
gAmE wAs ClOsE beCauSe oF bRennAN
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:01 pm to Lester Earl
If he had an average Nuss game we would have scored 20 points.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:04 pm to Lester Earl
Vs Missouri
Turnover on downs at midfield- off TD
Fumble rec MZ31- FG lsu
Fumble rec MSZ5- off TD lsu
Missed FG MZ- blocked LSU FG
Myles Brennan 1 & G at MZ1- goose egg. Game over
What the frick are you smoking saying the defense was no help dude look at the starting positions of some of these.
And realize how much of a punt fest it was in between all this, if lsu still couldn’t score enough points to beat these scrubs
Turnover on downs at midfield- off TD
Fumble rec MZ31- FG lsu
Fumble rec MSZ5- off TD lsu
Missed FG MZ- blocked LSU FG
Myles Brennan 1 & G at MZ1- goose egg. Game over
What the frick are you smoking saying the defense was no help
dude look at the starting positions of some of these. And realize how much of a punt fest it was in between all this, if lsu still couldn’t score enough points to beat these scrubs
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:06 pm to SammyTiger
quote:I think this is where the disconnect it happening.
If he had an average Nuss game we would have scored 20 points.
You think that if Nuss plays the same as last year, we will not be very good.
The thing is, we agree. The hope is that he will be much improved.
On the other hand, you think that if Brennan plays the same as he did in 2020, we will be good, whereas we think that if Brennan plays the same as in 2020, we will not be very good. Maybe Brennan has improved, but that doesn't seem to be your argument.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:07 pm to Tigeralltheway
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2020 was the conference only szn in which he threw for 1100+ yds and 11/3 Td/Int in 3 games. Our Defense was atrocious that year.
So were the opponents he played to put up those numbers. Him playing ok against State (4-7), Missouri (5-5), and Vandy (0-9) doesn't exactly mean that three game sample size will translate to an entire season. And TBH, him throwing for 345 yards on 46 attempts with two picks wasn't exactly a great outing against State. In the first half of that game, he was objectively bad, and he had 9 total drives in the game that resulted in zero first downs or an interception out of 15 total possessions
He has so little game film in his career, I don't see how anyone could be supremely confident of how he'd perform over an entire season. I'd love for him to do well because he's probably been one of the most unlucky football players we've had and it'd be a nice redemption story, but I also can't honestly say I know he's the best QB we have.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:26 pm to studentsect
The argument is that Brennan secretly wasn’t good in 2020. Because I think If I offered You his raw numbers you’d take that every time.
So the question is: do you put 100% of the blame for the 2 losses on Brennan?
Run game was atrocious
Play calling was bad and it remained bad most of the season (especially in the Redzone and on 3rd down)
Defense 44 and 45 points.
We have a whole new coaching staff because those problem not only continues after Brennan got hurt, but they continues with new OC and DCs.
So the questions are: can Brennan still do that? If not what can he do? Can Nuss do it better?
Maybe Nuss can. No reason to believe he can though. I’ve never seen it.
So the question is: do you put 100% of the blame for the 2 losses on Brennan?
Run game was atrocious
Play calling was bad and it remained bad most of the season (especially in the Redzone and on 3rd down)
Defense 44 and 45 points.
We have a whole new coaching staff because those problem not only continues after Brennan got hurt, but they continues with new OC and DCs.
So the questions are: can Brennan still do that? If not what can he do? Can Nuss do it better?
Maybe Nuss can. No reason to believe he can though. I’ve never seen it.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:30 pm to Lester Earl
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What the frick are you smoking saying the defense was no help dude look at the starting positions of some of these.
They gave up 45 fricking points. Did the defense force a punt at all that game?
Spin away
You still can’t give a reason it should be Nuss.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:38 pm to SammyTiger
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You still can’t give a reason it should be Nuss.
I could give a few but it’s not going to be that he threw for 400yds vs Miss state in a loss so I can only imagine how that conversation would go
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:38 pm to Lester Earl
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I could give a few but it’s not going to be that he threw for 400yds vs Miss state in a loss so I can only imagine how that conversation would go
You “can” but so far you refuse to.
You can’t say he threw for 400 yards in a loss, Or 300 yards in a loss or 200 yards in a loss.
It’s also not going to be that he threw for 400 yards in a win, or 300 yards in a win or 200 yards in a win or 100 yards in a win or 50 Yards in a win.
So what are they?
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:48 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
quote:He was throwing it up to a wide open Marshall against a defense that hadn’t practiced until a few weeks before the season started. 235 on 11 receptions isn’t normal. And that same year freshman Boutte broke the SEC single game receiving record vs. Ole Miss w/ freshman Max Johnson as a QB throwing for 431 yds.
The Missouri game is the most baffling if them all from a "blame Myles" perspective… The fact that we even had a chance to win to begin with was because of Myles.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:51 pm to SammyTiger
Sammy. Every great QB that has ever existed went into their careers without a 300yd game. I really cannot express how meaningless your post it. This will have zero bearing on who is picked to be the Quarterback
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:52 pm to Lester Earl
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Sammy. Every great QB that has ever existed went into their careers without a 300yd game. I really cannot express how meaningless your post it. This will have zero bearing on who is picked to be the Quarterback
You’re opinion will have 0 bearing on this decision but I’m asking for it.. So stop stalling.
So far “his teammates like him” is the only reason you’ve given.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 12:54 pm
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