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What’s being missed about this SEC penalty stuff

Posted on 8/27/26 at 12:41 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 12:41 pm
None of these penalties apply to the player.

There is nothing saying the player is ineligible

The SEC is saying if a certain player plays, then penalties will apply to others.

They clearly believe they have found a legal loophole here.

Will it hold up?
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 12:47 pm to
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None of these penalties apply to the player.

There is nothing saying the player is ineligible

The SEC is saying if a certain player plays, then penalties will apply to others.

They clearly believe they have found a legal loophole here.

Will it hold up?


Legally speaking, I don't think the conference rules will stand up to legal scrutiny, no. Particularly given that these conference rules were established pretty much directly in response to the previous court orders, there's a pretty compelling case that they are effectively doing the very thing the NCAA was just prohibited from doing. I'd imagine these court rulings will include the conferences in their decisions and the courts outrank the conferences.

It's going to be really tough, imo, for the schools to beat the case that they're effectively colluding to limit the labor market for these otherwise eligible players in a group boycott of sorts.
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 12:56 pm
Posted by mdomingue
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

None of these penalties apply to the player.

There is nothing saying the player is ineligible

The SEC is saying if a certain player plays, then penalties will apply to others.

They clearly believe they have found a legal loophole here.

Will it hold up?



The SEC has lawyers; I would expect they have someone to help them figure out how to handle this in a way that will likely hold up in court.

But, as another poster pointed out, the CFP has chimed in and said they will potentially ban teams with players tey consider to be "former professional athletes". And the CFP is technically unaffiliated with either the SEC or NCAA.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 12:52 pm to
No, this is not being missed at all.

Lawyers will argue if no schools will touch these guys based on the proposed penalties, their clients are in effect ineligible.

the LA TRO names the NCAA and anyone acting in concert or participation with... IE conferences, CFP, etc. add em all to the injuction and let em play
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 12:53 pm to
The whole point of the rule is to prevent these players from playing. The mechanism doesn’t matter when that is the clear purpose and outcome. Hope Sankey enjoys depositions, discovery, and paying damages.
Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 12:54 pm to
The CFP committee can’t violate a court order either.
Posted by mdomingue
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 12:58 pm to
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The CFP committee can’t violate a court order either.



What court order would force them to rank a team in the top 12?

And do you really want the courts dictating the CFP? Talk about destroying college football.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 12:58 pm to
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But, as another poster pointed out, the CFP has chimed in and said they will potentially ban teams with players tey consider to be "former professional athletes". And the CFP is technically unaffiliated with either the SEC or NCAA.


That would be incredibly sticky for the cfp/the committee to essentially decide that some court ordered players don't impact a teams viability for playoff consideration but others do.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:00 pm to
if that's a line the SEC is willing to cross then the SEC can be sued and taken to court

Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6878 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:00 pm to
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Talk about destroying college football.


As opposed to letting Ole Miss have a player at the most important position in football theoretically get into the playoff but a tight end that had a cup of coffee with the browns in preseason excluding LSU?
Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:00 pm to
Let’s say LSU is undefeated and they leave them out. What happens?
Posted by michael corleone
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:00 pm to
SEC is on extremely dangerous ground. NCAA v. Alston (2021). The Supreme Court unanimously held that the NCAA is not exempt from federal antitrust law. The Court specifically rejected the idea that the unique nature of college sports automatically gives the NCAA an antitrust exemption. The SEC is subject to the EXACT same scrutiny. Getting together to prevent these kids (5 for 5) from playing puts them at risk of violation the Sherman Act.
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 1:11 pm
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6878 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:01 pm to
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Let’s say LSU is undefeated and they leave them out. What happens?


That would be a disaster if a 2 loss Ole Miss team with Chambliss gets in but an undefeated LSU team with a back up tight end gets left out. I don't think the CFP wants that smoke.
Posted by themunch
in motion
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:04 pm to
CFP committee is now the governing body of footballs.
Posted by TigahTX
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:04 pm to
The courts can’t force the CFP committee to rank teams but in a long term legal battle that selective targeting will have the CFP committee in deep shite.
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 1:05 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48840 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

quote:

Talk about destroying college football.
As opposed to letting Ole Miss have a player at the most important position in football theoretically get into the playoff but a tight end that had a cup of coffee with the browns in preseason excluding LSU?



So you think a judge dictating the eligibility of a single player is equally impactful as dictating what the CFP committee does on the state of college football?

Regardless of whether I think the NCAA did these players wrong (I do) or if I think that CHambliss and Ole Miss exploited a favorable judge to get eligibility for the season(I do), I do not want the court to set a precedent of getting involved in the CFP decisions. Nor should anyone, IMO.

The NCAA, or maybe a new governing body, needs to find a way to stop these lawsuits from happening every year.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48840 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:13 pm to
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The courts can’t force the CFP committee to rank teams but in a long term legal battle that selective targeting will have the CFP committee in deep shite.



Doubtful
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11108 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:14 pm to
most of the TROs protect everyone involved. They also state that the school cannot be retroactively punished.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6878 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:18 pm to
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I do not want the court to set a precedent of getting involved in the CFP decisions.


Haven't they already? Is Ole Miss relevant this year without Chambliss?
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9756 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:22 pm to
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Will it hold up?


My guess is that it holds up long enough to do exactly what the SEC/BIG10 etc wants.

The players don't play.

But, the players may win some future ruling that give them some monetary compensation.
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