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re: What we're finding out this week is just how rotten LSU's football program is right now.

Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1975 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:13 pm to
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doesnt add up .so you are saying that without him on the sidelines in 2019 ,LSU still wins natty?




Yes, 100% absolutely. If you think his on-field coaching prowess made a single iota of difference with respect to the 2019 squad, you don't have a clue what you are talking about.



This is actually pretty hilarious -- a fan of another program coming in and trying to tell LSU fans that actually ed orgeron was a good coach. You are as dumb as they come if you believe that lol.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71471 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:14 pm to
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As horribly coached as this team was, we were 3 last second losses (Bama, arkansas, and auburn) from being 9-3 and in a 3 way tie breaker situation for first in the sec west with Bama and Ole miss ffs. Kelly has an incredible foundation with a very realistic opportunity to make a playoff or ny6 next year.



Correct

These “burn it down” types are simply dead wrong. The program has an absolutely solid foundation, and just needed the right HC to develop talent and stay out of the bad headlines.

Kelly is that, and he will compete sooner than what most are expecting. Many of these players and recruits were already wishy washy because O was fired a while back. They’ve been looking.

It’ll be fine
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:26 pm to
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These “burn it down” types are simply dead wrong. The program has an absolutely solid foundation, and just needed the right HC to develop talent and stay out of the bad headlines.


The program has elite resources.

The entire point of this week is that we're finding out the foundation, as defined by the human equation, is not solid. It's weak. There is talent in the program but the attitude is awful. The work ethic isn't there. The behavioral aspect of the team is awful and has been for years. And the leadership is nonexistent.

How come you got the Koy Moore mess at LSU and not at Alabama? Was there an Eli Ricks situation at Michigan this year? Do players' parents at Oklahoma State or Notre Dame go on radio shows or podcasts and bash the coach or offer "helpful" suggestions as to how he should run his team?

Burning it down doesn't mean running off all the talent, and Kelly isn't going to do that. But it does mean a total reboot of cultures, habits, behaviors and attitudes. And no organization is successful if the people in it aren't willing to buy into the new direction. So when you have people on the outside of that, they've got to go.

On the whole, I don't think we're far apart. But the team culture is the single most important thing a program can have. It's the difference between a Baylor and a Texas. We're the latter right now.
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:31 pm to
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.so you are saying that without him on the sidelines in 2019 ,LSU still wins natty?
frick yeah they do. He added zilch
Posted by Pepperidge
Slidell
Member since Apr 2011
4365 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:35 pm to
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Because the buy-in is everything at this level of football and everybody understands that.

Most of the players get that, and most of them are buying in. But that won't make headlines.


Yep

What this program needs more than prima dona athletes is young men of good character.
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
8212 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:45 pm to
Ed poisoned the well.
Posted by Yeahright
On a big sphere out there.
Member since Sep 2018
2179 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:46 pm to
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I actually don't think this is a 3-5 year rebuild. I think Kelly will find a way to get LSU to a bowl game in 2022, and by 2023 I think he's going to be competing to win the West.

Wow. You really going out on a limb here Garth.
Posted by massilsu
Oz
Member since Sep 2020
1947 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:56 pm to
troll my arse . you re just jealous Ed O has a CFP trpohy on his resume and hot blondes dig him meanwhile you are stright fapper only.i am issuing you a DWI ( Deal With It)
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 3:13 pm to
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troll my arse . you re just jealous Ed O has a CFP trpohy on his resume and hot blondes dig him meanwhile you are stright fapper only.i am issuing you a DWI ( Deal With It)


Effective trolling requires a much less obvious presentation than this.

Your first attempt in this thread was a little bit better. Try not to phone it in quite so much.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38179 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 3:23 pm to
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Remember anyone leaving or transferring was part of a group that went 8-10 in the SEC the last two years!


Some of them may have been part of a team that went 15-0 in 2019. Like Brennan. How is either significant?
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
6183 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 3:46 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 3:51 pm
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
19658 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 3:49 pm to
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Sissidog02


Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
30895 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:14 pm to
So Ree made an alter, or was it Pirate King?
Posted by Shaq4prez
The Deaf Dome
Member since Oct 2021
4110 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:16 pm to
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It’s a purge

Part of the process

Everyone freaking out needs to chill


They won't. They don't have the mental capability
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
36528 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:13 pm to
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As horribly coached as this team was, we were 3 last second losses (Bama, arkansas, and auburn) from being 9-3 and in a 3 way tie breaker situation for first in the sec west with Bama and Ole miss ffs


Les Miles all over again, it just looked different.

I'm excited for accountability and discipline.

Yeah, and alignment
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:21 pm to
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Things might even have been more dire then, actually, and yet Saban won 8 games in 2000 and won the SEC in 2001.


They definitely were. We’d only been to a bowl 3 times in 11 years and two of those were the Independence Bowl.

You don’t win the conference with 3 losses anymore, so I don’t see winning the SEC in year two though.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
30944 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:42 pm to
Lol nobody would wait on a 3-5 year rebuild .
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2014
1853 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:45 pm to
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A lot of you are panicking and thinking Brian Kelly is at fault because players are transferring and recruits are decommitting. But Brian Kelly just got here, and Brian Kelly has a 10-year contract. That means Brian Kelly can afford to view things from a long-range perspective.


He will either be right or wrong and time will tell. Let him build his staff and pull together a recruiting class. He’s got two - three years before judgments can be asserted about hires/fires/recruiting/player development.
Posted by massilsu
Oz
Member since Sep 2020
1947 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:22 am to
This is so sad . I feel bad for you . I really do. I hope you are ok during this holiday season and are not thinking about throwing your self off a bridge or carbon monoxide -ing yourself . stay positive my pal
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86586 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:29 am to
Anyone with a functioning brain understood this from jump

But this is the rant and this is LSU so that only covers about 40% of the fan base if that
This post was edited on 12/10/21 at 9:29 am
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