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What Happened to Coleman in the 9th?
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:06 am
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:06 am
Seemed like he just 'lost it.' Maybe some of the pitching gurus can weigh in.
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:07 am to AlwysATgr
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Seemed like he just 'lost it.'
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:07 am to AlwysATgr
I think he ran out of gas.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:08 am to AlwysATgr
I don't know, but Coleman seems to have filled out a lot. I was watching at a party and with no sound. I had to be told twice that it was Coleman on the mound.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:09 am to AlwysATgr
Johnson said ran out of gas and they were expecting it because he threw in bullpen night before and was fully ready to enter that game. Johnson said that before the game they felt he could go about 45 pitches.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 9:18 am
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:09 am to AlwysATgr
I think "lost it" pretty much sums it up. He wasn't even missing close to the zone. In previous games, it was mentioned he prefers a long warm up which is why he preferred starting rather than coming out of the pen. But that doesn't explain why he came in throwing strikes then fell off.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:10 am to AlwysATgr
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pitching gurus
this board is frequented by some of the dumbest baseball fans on the planet and you are expecting input from 'pitching gurus'?
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:13 am to AlwysATgr
Release point malfunction. Guru out
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:18 am to Returnofzeus
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is board is frequented by some of the dumbest baseball fans on the planet and you are expecting input from 'pitching gurus'?
He qualified his request to be the “pitching gurus”. So that way he wouldn’t have to wade through the responses from “the dumbest baseball fans on the plant”.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:20 am to redfish99
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Release point malfunction.
So why do you think he had a release point malfunction?
I like Coleman because I got to see him pitch vs Aggy in '21 in relief of Marceaux. He looked good last night until the 9th.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:26 am to AlwysATgr
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So why do you think he had a release point malfunction?
It’s usually fatigue. It can be loss of concentration, or aiming the ball, rather than normal movement.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:31 am to AlwysATgr
I feel like Coleman is going to settle into a role as a guy who can give you 2 maybe 3 innings.
and yes he’s gone farther this year, but he always looks his best his first 2 innings out.
and that’s fine. Paul Gervase was a beast 2 innings at a time. He gave up like 8 ER in 2022 and 5 of them were in outing where he went over 2 innings.
and yes he’s gone farther this year, but he always looks his best his first 2 innings out.
and that’s fine. Paul Gervase was a beast 2 innings at a time. He gave up like 8 ER in 2022 and 5 of them were in outing where he went over 2 innings.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:40 am to AlwysATgr
If Coleman and Guidry can get you a total of 3 innings of shut out ball from the 7th through the 9th this team will be in Omaha.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:40 am to Good Times
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board is frequented by some of the dumbest baseball fans on the planet and you are expecting input from 'pitching gurus'?
He qualified his request to be the “pitching gurus”. So that way he wouldn’t have to wade through the responses from “the dumbest baseball fans on the plant”.
You think those guys know they're the dumbest fans and don't think they are everything that is baseball gurus?
John Cleese sums it up here. Present company may or may not be excluded because if we weren't, we wouldn't realize it.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:46 am to AlwysATgr
Not complicated. Jay Johnson said he thought he got tired. That’s it.
ETA: CJJ quote is in the badvocate.
ETA: CJJ quote is in the badvocate.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 9:48 am
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:47 am to Good Times
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It’s usually fatigue. It can be loss of concentration, or aiming the ball, rather than normal movement.
Yeah, that is the effect of fatigue on pitchers. For fielders, it usually ends up causing a lack of concentration, rushing throws, and also aiming the throws The first leads to poor decision-making, and booted or whiffed balls. The latter two results in overthrown, underthrown, or off-target balls to the baseman or cutoff man.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:54 am to poncho villa
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I think he ran out of gas
PROPANE?
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:01 am to coachbleu
Release point malfunction seems clear as the large majority of his pitches that were called "balls", and they were, were low & in the dirt. Several did not even reach home plate.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:05 am to AlwysATgr
His velocity dropped as well. Indication of fatigue or aiming the ball. Probably the former based on Jay’s comments.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:19 am to Penrod
Ran out of gas, trying to hard to spot the ball.
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