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Posted on 1/2/18 at 1:02 pm to JawjaTigah
quote:The dinosaur asteroid of Chicxulub Meteor
We have a culture problem... again.quote:January 09, 2011 Sorry, but it was January 9, 2012. End of 2011 season. End of the years of gold.
CHICXULUB METEOR SITE, HISTORY
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 1/2/18 at 1:04 pm to SpqrTiger
You nailed it sir. Have been thinking about this all day when I check TD to see if there is any update on the OC. Then tell myself it doesn't matter at all. It may temporarily make me feel a little better but the truth of the matter is LSU is no longer committed to winning and are looking at this as business where they can sqeeze out every penny they can out of us the fans while not putting out the best product. Nothing will change until change is made at the top. The only thing we as fans can do is stop giving them out money and show that we demand better and won't settle for mediocrity.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 1:05 pm to SpqrTiger
I think there is a message board culture problem.
I don't think there has shown to be one in real life with this football program. I see future players, current players, and future players all excited about LSU right now.
Message boarders deal in perception, not reality. People like Clay Travis helps this. He reads this board and knows he will generate hits based on things he says about LSU. Yet people hold his opinion in high regard for some reason. Did no one follow his tweets & videos relating to the Tenn coaching search? The guy flat out embarrassed himself and his brand. But none the less, perception becomes reality.
Fans say O is a shrimp boat captain. Players, past present and future are all saying differently. Where is the culture problem with the actual team?
I don't think there has shown to be one in real life with this football program. I see future players, current players, and future players all excited about LSU right now.
Message boarders deal in perception, not reality. People like Clay Travis helps this. He reads this board and knows he will generate hits based on things he says about LSU. Yet people hold his opinion in high regard for some reason. Did no one follow his tweets & videos relating to the Tenn coaching search? The guy flat out embarrassed himself and his brand. But none the less, perception becomes reality.
Fans say O is a shrimp boat captain. Players, past present and future are all saying differently. Where is the culture problem with the actual team?
Posted on 1/2/18 at 1:23 pm to Lester Earl
being a second tier power is not the end of the world and is our traditional place. some things are more important than football.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 1:33 pm to bruintiger
TD posters have a lack of reality problem. LSU is a very good program yet the majority of people on this site are ignorant, fragile, and short-sighted.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:16 pm to bruintiger
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being a second tier power is not the end of the world and is our traditional place. some things are more important than football.
Losers mentality.
Anyway, when Alleva and Orgeron go, F King will still be here which is a big issue for the next hire.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:26 pm to Nuts4LSU
quote:
Tiger
I agree with everything you said, but you stopped too soon. You said "all the way to the top" but you only went up to the university president. All the way to the top means higher than that. It's the jackasses on the board of supervisors, the corrupt politicians who hand out positions on it as political favors for their cronies, and, ultimately, the people who keep electing these frickwads. All the way to the top ultimately leads all the way to the bottom, the very grass roots. It's simple GIGO. Garbage people elect garbage political leaders who appoint and confirm garbage board members to oversee the university who hire garbage administrators who hire garbage people to do the individual jobs like teaching classes or coaching sports teams. And, no surprise, we wind up with garbage results in the classroom, on the playing field and everywhere else.
This is, as you said, a culture problem. A problem with the very culture of the state of Louisiana. And it will never, ever change. It's why just about everybody with a brain and a chance leaves that shithole.
You had me til the very end... You didn't have to shite on Louisiana as a whole. There are many great people in this state who do make a difference.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:30 pm to SpqrTiger
Culture problem starts with the fans.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:52 pm to Goldrush25
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Some decisions should cause you anxiety, but you make that decision because in your mind you know it's the best one to make, not because it gives you the warm and fuzzies inside.
Hell yeah. Think with your head not with your heart. Our big brain is what separates us humans from the animals. We didnt develop this brain with the intention to forgo its use and rely on primal, core, animal instinct instead.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:08 pm to Lester Earl
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Fans say O is a shrimp boat captain. Players, past present and future are all saying differently. Where is the culture problem with the actual team?
The effects on the team will be felt subtly over a couple of years. Nothing immediate and nothing right away. Especially as long as the NFL guys are around the program. Their biggest disservice will be that they will eventually realize they Are placing their futures into the hands of somebody under qualified.
The culture problem talked about in this thread largely centers on the ineptitude and corruption of the ones who wield the power over LSU. The effects on the team are a by product of that and is not the primary issue.
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:29 pm to SpqrTiger
We all know the OP is right. the current leadership doesn’t have the will or know how to win at the highest level.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:38 pm to Champagne
LSU doesn't have any home-grown head coaching talent other than Coach Orgeron, so, there aren't many to "bring home".
Closest example would be Frank Wilson. That is if he can prove that he can keep an up and coming program (for their level) like UTSA on an upward trajectory.
Closest example would be Frank Wilson. That is if he can prove that he can keep an up and coming program (for their level) like UTSA on an upward trajectory.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:42 pm to Old Money
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Anyway, when Alleva and Orgeron go, F King will still be here which is a big issue for the next hire.
Unless Alexander looses his cool when negotiating with the state and ticks people off. He has been known to be a good puppet and order taker. What happens when he stops taking orders?
Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:45 pm to SpqrTiger
quote:
SpqrTiger
Here we are on January 2nd and already have the post of the year.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 12:09 am to Nuts4LSU
quote:
I agree with everything you said, but you stopped too soon. You said "all the way to the top" but you only went up to the university president. All the way to the top means higher than that. It's the jackasses on the board of supervisors, the corrupt politicians who hand out positions on it as political favors for their cronies, and, ultimately, the people who keep electing these frickwads. All the way to the top ultimately leads all the way to the bottom, the very grass roots. It's simple GIGO. Garbage people elect garbage political leaders who appoint and confirm garbage board members to oversee the university who hire garbage administrators who hire garbage people to do the individual jobs like teaching classes or coaching sports teams. And, no surprise, we wind up with garbage results in the classroom, on the playing field and everywhere else. This is, as you said, a culture problem. A problem with the very culture of the state of Louisiana. And it will never, ever change. It's why just about everybody with a brain and a chance leaves that shithole.
Like another poster stated, most of what you stated was true instead of the last part. Too much sweeping generalizations and skewered over the top negativity. And this coming from someone who left the state but not for the reasons you mentioned (and moved back for a while too to attend LSU). BTW, there are other states where this can apply and worse (READ West Virginia, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas etc.). The Dakotas are dreadful too for that sort of thing but on a different level.
Everywhere things can be better in this world. Even in some of the most economically thriving states (Cali, Texas, Florida etc.)there are places of low quality and discontent. There is some areas outside of Bakersfield Calif. and S. Central LA in Calif that are lacking in many ways. Ever heard of Detroit? There are places where I live in Georgia (not where I am at) I would take La. over. Don't get me started on the great (sic!) state of Alabama and their inferior culture. The issue there is they are fanatical and live for nothing but CFB and have the league office in their back pocket. The same cronyism, good ol boy BS and backwardness you are calling out La. for exists very much in Gumpneck land if not worst.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 12:13 am to gplayerjr
quote:
You had me til the very end... You didn't have to shite on Louisiana as a whole. There are many great people in this state who do make a difference.
This is very true. And not everyone in La in public service is a crook. The Fast Eddie Edwards of the current and past and folks of their ilk skewers things so that folks like to make it out everyone in public space and all state business leaders are like that. Some very good people are alums of the Ol' War Skule. The OP took it too far.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 12:16 am to Katy Tiger
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We all know the OP is right. the current leadership doesn’t have the will or know how to win at the highest level.
2019-2020 is the time to shake things up, if Alexander and Alleva make it that far. Their contracts are up. Someone posted else where that there is a rumor Alexander wants out and will be gone by mid-year. Rumor that could be bunk. Regardless if that is the case, the point is they won't be here forever. New elections coming up too.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:21 am to Canwoodtiger
quote:
What happens when he stops taking orders?
He won't stop lapping at the sack of shite governors lap......until we get that mongoloid out of office this is all worthless. Still shocked that Jindal would appoint this sack of shite as the head of the university.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:23 am to Canwoodtiger
quote:
Someone posted else where that there is a rumor Alexander wants out and will be gone by mid-year.
One could only hope, but the mongoloid in the governors office will be hiring the replacement. I don't have much faith he'll make a wise decision.
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