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re: We are going to see how valuable JD5 really was to this team...
Posted on 9/3/24 at 2:40 pm to TigerKnights
Posted on 9/3/24 at 2:40 pm to TigerKnights
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They think only being a traditional qb not a "dual threat" is a one trick pony.
We have some winner takes after any loss.
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 2:42 pm to TxTiger82
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Because we don't have a WR who can take the top off the defense
CJ Daniels?
Posted on 9/3/24 at 3:21 pm to KillBill76
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Just be prepared for a long season after September.
Was also said or thought after both opening losses against Florida State the past two seasons with JD at QB.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 3:27 pm to TN Tygah
Nuss is capable of running. Not like JD but he can get 10-15 yds. Hell if he could get 3 yds we would have gotten one of those first downs we needed. We don't need JD runs. I think we will see more over the next 3 games especially as the backups get more PT.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 4:05 pm to KillBill76
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Don't get me wrong I'm not blaming Nuss, for the L last night. However, he is a one trick pony. If the play calling is bad which it was the majority of the second half or someone misses their assignment, Nussmeier doesn't have the ability to compensate for the lack. JD5, bailed us out so many times with his legs off script it became expected and we took it for granted. He bailed out Denbrock, numerous times. I'm not saying bench Nussmeier, because I don't know if we have a better qb option.. Just be prepared for a long season after September. I was saying 8-4 before the season, I doubt we will reach that now...
CAPTAIN OBVIOUS is now posting.......
Posted on 9/3/24 at 4:23 pm to KillBill76
he won a heisman…. we know how valuable he was.
Now we get o see if other people can be valuable.
Now we get o see if other people can be valuable.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 4:57 pm to KillBill76
How many years/games did it take Daniels to have a passing game like Nuss in his second game as a starter?
Daniels had two opening game losses in his fourth and fifth seasons as a starter..
Daniels had two opening game losses in his fourth and fifth seasons as a starter..
Posted on 9/3/24 at 5:14 pm to Yeahright
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CAPTAIN OBVIOUS is now posting.......
Captain Oblivious is more like it. Nuss isn't a one trick pony. Nuss can very much compensate for bad playcalls, but also shouldn't have to. And we shouldn't "bench Nuss" regardless of who our backups are. Predicting 8 and 4 as the ceiling and now worse is beyond stupid.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 5:15 pm to SOCAL TIGER
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Extended plays and drives
Ran for over 1000 yards
Was always a threat the entire game
Never got rattled
As a 5th year starting QB, 4th year QB, not so much.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:02 pm to mcspufftiger7
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Nuss is capable of running. Not like JD but he can get 10-15 yds. Hell if he could get 3 yds we would have gotten one of those first downs we needed. We don't need JD runs. I think we will see more over the next 3 games especially as the backups get more PT.
Nuss is as fast as Burrow from what I’ve heard. Burrow was a great runner for us. But Burrow’s biggest weapon as a runner was between his ears. The dude knew exactly when and where to run. He was never a risk to bust out a 50 yard run on any given play like JD was, but the fact that he would expose any gap the opposing team had, it made him just as effective as JD in certain situations, particularly 3rd downs, sometimes even more effective — he knew where to go better than any QB I’ve ever seen. They both were serious run threats that defenses had to keep an eye on, albeit in VERY different ways.
Nuss has the speed to do that, it’s just about reading the D and making them pay for leaving a gap.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:07 pm to SOCAL TIGER
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Extended plays and drives
Ran for over 1000 yards
Was always a threat the entire game
Never got rattled
And there were calls to bench Daniels, too, after both season opener losses.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:10 pm to KillBill76
JD5 was amazing. I'm undecided on Nus, but let's not pretend Mr Shotgun Pump is th3 same as Malik and mt
Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:45 pm to tigerskin
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Heisman trophy winners are generally pretty valuable
yep, we have had 3
2 won national titles
if JD5 had a defense, LSU goes undefeated last year..
we were unstoppable on offense
Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:53 pm to rds dc
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In the second half, USC was able to scheme Lacy out of the game, and LSU couldn't make them pay for that move.
This is what’s maddening regarding play calling and utilizing your skill players. If Lacey is being double covered on the perimeter then play him in the slot. Run lacey on crosser or slant, send Daniels deep, and TE on a 10 yard curl. Hell, send the RB on a wheel route to the vacated side of the field. It’s not rocket science, sure as shite shouldn’t take a whole half to figure out.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:03 pm to KillBill76
JD vs FSU last year
22/37 345 1TD 1INT
15 rush 64 yards
Nuss vs USC
29/38 304 2TD 1INT
0 rush 0 yards
22/37 345 1TD 1INT
15 rush 64 yards
Nuss vs USC
29/38 304 2TD 1INT
0 rush 0 yards
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:03 pm to KillBill76
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What cannon?
LOL....yeah, you aren't a troll. He has one of the strongest arms in college football.....they just didn't let him use it Sunday night like he has in the past.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:05 pm to dukeg7213
Keep in mind JD did absolutely nothing in the second half, and didn't score until the last minute when the game was long decided...and if I recall correctly, it was a long run following a short pitch and catch.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:19 pm to Ebridg3
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let's not pretend Mr Shotgun Pump is th3 same as Malik and mt
Malik was one of the best WRs to ever suit up in Death Valley. Dude could catch a 6 yard pass, break 2 tackles, run 30 more yards to make it a 36 yard completion.
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:33 pm to Cuz413
For me, I’m glad JD was able to run, but let’s be real, he shouldn’t have had to be our leading rusher nor would any team ever want that for their qb. We recruit running backs for a reason, we are gonna have to find a way to run the ball. USC stacked the box all night cause we never threatened them vertically. We are giving USC’s defensive coordinator a lot of credit, but the truth is, we made his job easy. Good coaches find a way to run the ball whether it be WR and around, or screen plays which are kinda like an extension of the run. Just get it together and play to Nuss’s strengths and we will be fine.
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