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re: WBB has to make more revenue or cut expenses

Posted on 7/5/25 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49682 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 3:07 pm to
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That is what La Tech did with their once dominate womens basketball program.


Not really. Tech was bypassed by bigger schools that decided to compete and they couldn't keep up.
Posted by Batiger53
Member since Nov 2024
807 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 3:07 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/5/25 at 6:30 pm
Posted by 469LSU
Member since Jan 2011
253 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 3:08 pm to
Why did Woodward hire CKM? Don't you think he knew that WBB would lose money?

I'm not going to pretend or waste time guessing what's going on behind the scenes of the operation.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49682 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 3:22 pm to
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To me the better question is how much has these sports improved LSU's brand exposure. Do you not understand how having the LSU name on the national stage and the extra exposure LSU gets from this helps in recruiting in the major sports. Kids want to be part of an overall winning program.


Wait a minute. You think that LSU women's BB helps recruit LSU major sports? Football? Men's Basketball? or even Baseball ( I know nationally it isn't considered a major sport but it is here ). You have this backwards, it is football that recruits other sports. Recruits in other sports always make trips during football season and are hosted at games. I doubt if football uses womens basketball games to host recruits and sell them on LSU.
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2910 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 3:25 pm to
how long have you been in Louisiana? The Cajuns and north Louisiana Rednecks don't exactly care about higher learning. As Randy Newman said in one of his songs, "college men go to LSU, go in dumb and come out dumb too." If it wasn't for sports we probably wouldn't have any colleges in the state. Sarcasm and exaggeration obviously but not too far from the truth.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71123 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 3:26 pm to
It’s time to fire mulkey, she is not a good coach.

She is underachieving each year despite given unlimited money and losing 8 million dollars annually to not field a quality team and are about to get lapped by SC, Texas , OU, TN and KY
This post was edited on 7/5/25 at 3:37 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68436 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 3:36 pm to
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Losing 8.5 million in one season is not going to cut it in today's college athletics climate.


Said this in the "Jay Johnson needs a raise" thread. Subtract 20 million from the AD operating budget for revenue sharing, then trying to find money for programs in or close to the red is difficult. Raise ticket prices, more ads, or booster donations is the only option. Positive school press is only worth so much in the modern era of college sports.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 3:49 pm to
The fill up the PMAC and win championships. You literally can't ask more of them. Same for gymnastics. You could raise ticket prices a little maybe, that's about all you can do.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17684 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 3:55 pm to
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impacted the deal. Fact remains WBB lost 8.5 million.

The numbers for next year will look a lot differently. They upped the conference payout for tournament teams, and upped the NCAA tournament payout. Also on the books, I think the women's team doesn't get any portion of the TV deal credited to them.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1756 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 4:04 pm to
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You literally can't ask more of them

well you could ask them to not lose massive money

why aren't the men allowed to lose 6 million or whatever a year? surely that 6 million could buy an amazing team
Posted by cadillac7563
Birmingham, AL
Member since Aug 2014
2010 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 4:12 pm to
Sports are an entertainment industry at all levels, college more than ever now. And if the audience isn’t there then it’s worthless. WBB is a shite product, otherwise we wouldn’t be having this thread convo. The wokes can try all they want, but money talks
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2650 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 4:14 pm to
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new world of revenue- driven business
Businesses prioritizing revenue is a new idea?
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
8272 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 4:14 pm to
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It’s time to fire mulkey, she is not a good coach. She is underachieving each year despite given unlimited money and losing 8 million dollars annually to not field a quality team and are about to get lapped by SC, Texas , OU, TN and KY

Sarcasm is hard on the internetz
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71123 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 4:18 pm to
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well you could ask them to not lose massive money why aren't the men allowed to lose 6 million or whatever a year? surely that 6 million could buy an amazing team


Well when Mulkey finishes they’ll prob hire a solid coach but for much less money obviously

UConn and SC are even losing over 6 million per year in WBB right now
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 4:34 pm to
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well you could ask them to not lose massive money


It's not up to them. If you took TV and advertising money out, I'd bet the revenue would look fairly similar. LSU and the WBB team can't do anything about that.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5033 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 4:47 pm to
Ah, but that's the point. The interest is there from a national standpoint for football and men's basketball. Despite all the bullshite media rah rah pumping, for the girl's game----not so much. The gal's game has grown, but Clark is responsible for virtually all of that growth.

If I was 7-1, 325 and was agile like a deer, I would be the next Shaq. That's basically the comparison you are making between men's and women's basketball revenue/profit.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39218 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 4:48 pm to
I was downvoted into oblivion when I said Mulkey was not worth the money they were speculating her being hired for

Women’s sports don’t create revenue.

Put every fricking dime into football and cut your losses
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 5:31 pm to
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LSU and the WBB team can't do anything about that.

They could both stop wasting so much money on the sport.
Posted by Tigershine
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2015
2171 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 5:37 pm to
I believe the higher level of all sports helps in the recruiting of all sports. It only makes sense to me.
This post was edited on 7/5/25 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25483 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 6:29 pm to
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I’m going to trust people in the AD to figure it out for now. If women’s basketball, or any sport is having a significant negative impact on football, I believe they’ll make changes


If LSU is struggling in other places because of women's basketball, or any other sport, then imagine what it will be like for 95% of other schools. There may be an outlier or two that pump money in women's basketball, despite any negatives, and they will probably win most years, but ultimately nobody will care.
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