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re: Vanderbilt is 100% a Product of their Schedule

Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:54 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78169 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:54 pm to
they’re a 2.5 point favorite at home

people acting like it’s a vegas lock of the century.

Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
12764 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 11:00 pm to
This will probably be a close game. I think LSU wins by 3. Last year’s game was fairly close. 11:00AM road game is a trap. Vandy played Alabama in a game that was closer than the score indicated. They also smoked the Cocks although Sellers left the game early. LSU’s offense still has question marks, but hopefully they come out and are wide awake. Vandy coming off of a bye week and should be well rested too.
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
2275 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 11:48 pm to
So LSU’s non conference and in conference sos is lower, but overall is higher??

The math ain’t mathin’!
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
7839 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 7:15 am to
Their stats are puffed pastry
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
24726 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 7:18 am to
Exactly this is why I’m not buying the hype of them being favored for the first time in IDK a decade? Against an SEC team. A top 10 ranked LSU team at that. I have only ever had play money in all these betting apps but I’m all in as can be having put everything I have in them on Kalshi and DK on lsu this weekend. It’s not even a homer thing, I never bet on lsu. But disrespect us like this??? Vandy is so fricked
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12544 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 7:22 am to
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i don’t think going horizontal is going to work on us.



You do realize thats how South Carolina scored their only touchdown? They ran split zone, hit the tight end in the flat for a big gain. Then the next possession they ran split zone but gave it to the running back and they housed it for 72 yards. South Carolina didn't really go back to it which Vanderbilt will. That is one of their most run plays and they run it very well. Its not so much about our speed as it about our defense ensuring each player does their job.
Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4503 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 7:32 am to
Advanced metrics which take into account strength of schedule and compares opponents has implied point totals of 25 for Vandy and 19 for LSU. Take that for what you will.

Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34045 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 7:34 am to
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They are 2.5 point favorites. Wake up. This isn’t going to be an easy victory.


I know it's hard to believe, but all of the predictive data the bookmakers use (that all accounts for strength of opponent) has Vanderbilt at worst, even with LSU. That's equal parts Vandy being better than expected and LSU's offense being far, far worse than anyone could have expected. The fact LSU is rated that "low" in the predictive data despite having a great defense shows just how bad LSU's offense has been.

Vandy has a good offense. Even with some redzone TOs, they were able to put up 14 vs. Alabama. Could they, at home, get to 21 or 24 vs. LSU? It's not out of the realm of possibility. Particularly if LSU's offense sucks and gives Vandy a lot of possessions. LSU has yet to score more than 20 vs. any power conference opponent all season. A 24-21, 23-20 type of score in favor of Vandy is not out of the realm of possibility.

I'm confident the LSU defense will show up. But you can't expect them to pitch a shutout vs a good offensive team. The question is whether the progress LSU showed on offense last Saturday is the beginning of things to come? Or just a 1 game aberration (like when the 2023 defense held Auburn to 18 points) where they return to the norm on Saturday?

Posted by extremelsu
Member since Aug 2013
5770 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 7:38 am to
We’ll lose this game unless the LSU offense plays their best game of the season
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17620 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 7:43 am to
They are solid and well coached. Overall, talent vs. talent yes we are still better but with the way our offense is floundering it's why they are favored.

I'm not sure how much better at all Vandy is offensively than last year but we kept them pretty well in check last year and our defense was not good. I expect we'll keep them around the same range 14-17 points.

Can we score enough to overcome that? This is the question. I say yes, but barely - 20-17.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4905 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 7:49 am to
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Vegas knows the public has heard that cute Vanderbilt narrative all year and put the spread accordingly. If they put LSU as the favorite all the money would go to home “Top20” Vandy getting points. They gotta get the bets even.


If that is how Vegas set the line (and, by the way, it’s not “Vegas” setting a line for everybody any longer) they would be out of business after week one.

The professional money, which sits and waits for an improper line to be set, would bankrupt them if such an egregious mistake were made setting a line.
This post was edited on 10/16/25 at 7:52 am
Posted by CaroTiger
South Carolina
Member since May 2011
1269 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 8:08 am to
I hope Weeks and Gooden can play. That's two big losses if they can't.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41273 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 8:08 am to
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The spread isn’t a measure of who is going to win the game and by how much. It’s getting even money on both sides.


It’s indirectly a measure of who the public and who the money thinks will win and by how much.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12627 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 8:20 am to
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They absolutely make the spread to get even money on both sides… And betting public perception is absolutely a part of that equation.

The spread isn’t a measure of who is going to win the game and by how much. It’s getting even money on both sides.

This is a (commonly repeated) huge oversimplification of oddsmaking.

In many cases, Vegas is perfectly fine with lopsided money on a game as long as the sharps and the betting public are on opposite sides.

It’s not just about getting even money and collecting the vig, it’s about maximizing EV within a given risk tolerance.
Posted by BigC LSU
Pittsburgh
Member since Oct 2025
1089 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 1:00 pm to
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no one is talking about Vandy this year
Talking about Vandy? Who cares what anyone is talking about? They are a good team, and could beat us on Saturday, lol. Yall do the weirdest shite rationalizing yall insecurities.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4233 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 2:42 pm to
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Vandy played Alabama in a game that was closer than the score indicated.


I keep seeing people say that, but it just isn’t true. Bama racked up 486 total yards (to 333 for Vandy) and only punted once. They had 8 scoring chances to 4 for Vandy. Both teams squandered scoring opportunities. Maybe it should have been 44-24 instead of 30-14, but either way it wasn’t particularly close.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4233 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 2:59 pm to
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We’ll lose this game unless the LSU offense plays their best game of the season


Only one opponent has scored more than 10 against LSU. Vandy isn’t as good an offensive team as Ole Miss. Vandy is also the worst P4 defense LSU has faced and they’ve scored 17-20 every game (with many points left on the table). If the offense and defense both play as they have all season, Vandy scores less than 20 and LSU scores 20+.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28150 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 3:02 pm to
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We’ll lose this game unless the LSU offense plays their best game of the season


Yep

Only other chance is Vandy turns it over a la UF.
Posted by Tha crook
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1123 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 3:42 pm to
Oh boy . I have a feeling you’ll be on here crying by half time
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