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re: Umpire: "If the Catcher steps on or in front of plate WITHOUT POSSESSION of the Ball"!?!?

Posted on 5/26/24 at 6:49 am to
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44064 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 6:49 am to
Why isn’t it reviewable also?

It would have saved a TON of time.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9822 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 6:51 am to
The real time judgment call was out. They should have stayed with that.


Instead they let the SC coach come in during the break between innings and mind trick them into changing the call.

They they say it is “non reviewable”. After they just reconsidered/reviewed and changed the “judgment” call 5 minutes later.
Posted by Neilfish
Member since Jun 2006
3128 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 6:55 am to
Wonder after watching video, the umpire crew realized they hosed the call, reached out an apologized to JJ
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
6303 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 6:58 am to
What seems to not be understood my most people as they argue the semantics is the intent of the rule. The rule has nothing to do with the base runner.

The catcher interfered with the batter preventing him from swinging. If this was a hit and run play with a runner at 1st, the catcher can't step in front of the plate (batter) and catch the ball before it passes home plate. It prevents the batter from swinging and getting a chance to hit. It also causes a balk on the pitcher.

The call was correctly applied.
Posted by lctiger
Member since Oct 2003
3379 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 6:58 am to
No way. Umpires meet, get their story straight and whether true or not they will ride it out forever, even if totally wrong
Posted by 3amigosanddad
Member since Aug 2004
646 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:05 am to
quote:

What seems to not be understood my most people as they argue the semantics is the intent of the rule. The rule has nothing to do with the base runner. The catcher interfered with the batter preventing him from swinging. If this was a hit and run play with a runner at 1st, the catcher can't step in front of the plate (batter) and catch the ball before it passes home plate. It prevents the batter from swinging and getting a chance to hit. It also causes a balk on the pitcher. The call was correctly applied.


No you fricking dumbass. The batter vacated the batters box therefore catcher’s interference and all the other BS is null and void. So take your contrarian arse out and STTDB.
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
4971 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:06 am to
According to the rules the batter can leave early if the catcher leaves his position to make a play
Posted by Speckled
Member since Oct 2013
111 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:07 am to
I don’t agree with this on this play. The batter clearly vacated the box and gave himself up. I don’t understand how you can ignore such an important part of the play.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
39013 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:09 am to
At this point does it really matter?

Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68279 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:19 am to
My guess is the home plate ump didn’t know the rule and the USC coach told him and he overturned himself. That ump seemed like a moron so it wouldn’t surprise me.
Posted by sabbertooth
A Distant Planet
Member since Sep 2006
5644 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:25 am to
quote:

It almost looks like the catcher is aware of the "you can't block the plate" rule and placing his foot and knee to comply.

Thats the maddening part. Brady played it perfectly.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4385 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:30 am to
The game is clear in my mind brazwell is the boss and milam is just a figment of our imagination he is to little to be in the sec tourament or division 5a base ball !
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23286 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:08 am to
The refs should just be glad that Milam fixed their screw-up. Effectively it didn’t cost LSU the game so they will be relatively off the hook.

They ought to collectively stay away from the SC coach as his whole internet was to manipulate the umps and cause a rule issue instead of really trying to play baseball.
This post was edited on 5/26/24 at 10:09 am
Posted by KidCreole
Member since Nov 2015
112 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 1:15 pm to

WOW!?!

THE 1ST KEY/MAJOR CONDITION - WITH OR "WITHOUT POSSESSION OF THE BALL" - FOR THE RULE & RULING TO APPLY.........

AND NO (TIGER FAN ON TIGER FORUM) ONE SEES OR CARES TO COMMENT - DESPITE IT'S SLAM DUCK ARGUMENT/PROOF IN FAVOR OF LSU!?!

Posted by KidCreole
Member since Nov 2015
112 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 1:27 pm to
Again.....according to UMP & RULE.......it does not matter if he STEPPED ON OR IN FRONT OF PLATE........IF HE HAS POSSESSION OF THE BALL!!

HE CLEARLY HAD POSSESSION.........SO EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE RULE & RULING IS KAPUT!?!

MAJOR/CRITICAL CONDITION........AND NO ONE MENTIONS OR CARES!?

AS A TIGER FAN I WAS JUST TRYING TO LEARN, BE EDUCATED. CAME TO THE WRONG PLACE I GUESS.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3666 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

According to the rules the batter can leave early if the catcher leaves his position to make a play


Yes, he CAN leave the batter’s box, but that also nullifies catcher interference. Rule 6.01(g) doesn’t specify batter position but the rules on catcher interference do specify it. Since the intent of the rule is to prevent interfering with the batter, his abandoning any attempt to swing or bunt should nullify catcher interference.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3666 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

HE CLEARLY HAD POSSESSION.........SO EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE RULE & RULING IS KAPUT!?!


The question isn’t whether he ever gained possession of the ball, it’s whether he was on or in front of the plate BEFORE he gained possession.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
20253 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 1:33 pm to
He was definitely never on the plate before catching the ball. And every replay I saw showed his foot wasn't in front of the plate either.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
45974 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 1:40 pm to
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Where was the infraction?

It upset the SC manager.
Posted by DesertCajun
New Mexico
Member since Mar 2007
711 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 1:49 pm to
What you are missing is that they are spinning it and spinning it hoping that everyone forgets that they are wrong about the facts
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