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re: Tua underwent a procedure early Sunday morning
Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:24 pm to DaCajun1
Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:24 pm to DaCajun1
Alot will be depend on pain and what the athlete tells the trainers, but watching the video of the Birmingham ortho surgeon, he say 3-4 weeks. 20 days is a little shy of that. But there is not a standard of care here exactly as it will be patient specific based on his feedback about his symptoms over the next 2-3 weeks.
So the surgeon will be branded "the one who fixed Tua" or "the one who messed Tua up" depending on how he plays 3 weeks from now and draft night if the injury doesn't heal due to rushing back.
Tua knows better than anyone what the recovery was for the injury on the other side. He seems like a great guy, teammate, and competitor and will go if he can.
I suspect it may turn out to be a "game-time" decision based on how he is feeling warming up. But they will have to have the backup prepare as if he is starting. Regardless, since we will probably hear, legitimately, a lot of "we will have to wait and see", it will be a major media talking/debating point that we will get sick of hearing about between now and kickoff.
So the surgeon will be branded "the one who fixed Tua" or "the one who messed Tua up" depending on how he plays 3 weeks from now and draft night if the injury doesn't heal due to rushing back.
Tua knows better than anyone what the recovery was for the injury on the other side. He seems like a great guy, teammate, and competitor and will go if he can.
I suspect it may turn out to be a "game-time" decision based on how he is feeling warming up. But they will have to have the backup prepare as if he is starting. Regardless, since we will probably hear, legitimately, a lot of "we will have to wait and see", it will be a major media talking/debating point that we will get sick of hearing about between now and kickoff.
This post was edited on 10/20/19 at 4:27 pm
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Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:28 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
sure it wasnt a self prostate exam?
Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:30 pm to steadytiger
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No way he will play in 3 weeks. He blew his syndesmotic ankle ligaments, necessitating a polyethylene cord placed in drilled hole across the distal tibia and distal fibula.
This is correct. If he plays, it will be at his future's peril, and he will be limited in his mobility.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:33 pm to NorCali
Mack Jones will probably look like the second coming of Kyle Trask. If we can hold him to a Trask-like 28, maybe it will be rnough.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:34 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Theres not a foot and ankle orthopod in the country that would tell you with a straight face one can safely return to full play in CFB 3 weeks after this surgery. Bama may be willing to risk it on Tua's ankle. Tua shouldn't be and I'd advise him to get an unbiased second opinion. The syndesmosis is theoretically stable from the tight rope, but the ligaments wont scar in and heal for MINIMUM 4-6 weeks.
Foot and ankle surgeon from Andrews Institute says you are wrong. Right in the video. He says by two weeks they let them train as hard as they want, even with cutting. The joint is stable. It's only pain that holds them back.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:35 pm to RadarTiger
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Tua had the same surgery on the other ankle last year. He will be on his feet in 4 days, Back making cuts in 10 days, will be good to go
In plenty of time for the LSU game. According to the surgeon the ankle becomes stronger after the tightrope procedure!
Tua had the same surgery on the other ankle last year. He will be on his feet in 4 days, Back making cuts in 10 days, will be good to go
In plenty of time for the LSU game. According to the surgeon the ankle becomes stronger after the tightrope procedure!
Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:36 pm to DaCajun1
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I literally was in an ankle specialist’s Ortho office with a broken ankle and torn ligaments a few weeks ago and Tua came up when my surgeon was describing my injury. He said there is no way Tua should have played in last year’s playoffs. This surgery actually requires drilling a hole through the fibula and tibia bone and inserting a band to stop the bones from spreading out from downward pressure. Seems like Bama is rolling the dice with this kid’s future if they roll him out there again.
There is a big difference if there is a fracture. Tua didn't have a fracture last year, and he doesn't have one this year.
A fracture at least doubles the recovery time.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:40 pm to cliffset21
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According to the surgeon the ankle becomes stronger after the tightrope procedure!
Got little Brayden scheduled for his right after the Tommy John surgery.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:41 pm to GusMcRae
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This is correct. If he plays, it will be at his future's peril, and he will be limited in his mobility.
Man, seriously? I don't doubt your credentials, but you're spreading misinformation here. If you're gonna talk like these doctors and coaches are risking Tua's career, at least post some info.
The procedure makes the ankle MORE stable. And surgeons who do this procedure have literally stated ON THE RECORD that athletes are returning to full activity in 2-4 weeks. Including doctors from the Andrews institute.
Cam Robinson played two weeks post op. Logan is playing four weeks later. Tua played 29 days after they did his other ankle...
This post was edited on 10/20/19 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:42 pm to cliffset21
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Tua had the same surgery on the other ankle last year. He will be on his feet in 4 days, Back making cuts in 10 days, will be good to go In plenty of time for the LSU game. According to the surgeon the ankle becomes stronger after the tightrope procedure!
I’ve seen multiple players with high ankle sprains in the NFL and college that miss weeks and are never the same all year.
If it’s possible to get a tightrope surgery and be fine in less than 2 weeks, why doesn’t everyone with high ankle sprains get the surgery?
This post was edited on 10/20/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:45 pm to FWBTigah
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A tight rope procedure Didn’t he have this once before?
Yes, after suffering the High ankle sprain on the other ankle in the SECCG
Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:47 pm to HubbaBubba
Point I was about to make. OK is not getting left out
Posted on 10/20/19 at 4:49 pm to RadarTiger
Alabama QB Tua Tagovailoa undergoes surgery for high-ankle sprain
Alabama quarterback Tua Tagovailoa will miss Saturday's game against Arkansas after undergoing surgery to help repair a high-ankle sprain he suffered against Tennessee.
Tagovailoa suffered the injury during last night's win over the Volunteers. He had surgery Sunday morning.
"Our physicians performed a successful tight-rope procedure on his right ankle this morning," Alabama coach Nick Saban said in a statement. "This is the same injury, but the opposite ankle that Tua injured last season. Tua will miss next week's game against Arkansas, but we expect a full and speedy recovery."
Tagovailoa, who currently leads the FBS in QBR (95.6), has thrown 27 touchdowns and just two interceptions.
The junior from Hawaii had the "tightrope" procedure on his other ankle following the SEC Championship Game last season and returned in time to compete in the College Football Playoff.
Dr. Norman Waldrop, who was part of the team that performed the procedure on Tagovailoa a year ago, explained how it creates a more stable ankle and allows the ligaments to heal in their natural position.
"What we do is we drill a hole from the fibula into the tibia and cast these tightropes through the bone and synch it down and tighten it," Waldrop told ESPN in 2018.
"What these tightropes do are stabilize the ankle. It holds that little bone in its home. It holds it still and stable enough that the bones don't want to spread apart."
With Tagovailoa sidelined, Alabama will once again turn to former backup Mac Jones. The redshirt sophomore from Florida came on in relief of Tagovailoa against Tennessee and completed 6 of 11 pass attempts for 72 yards, no touchdowns and no interceptions.
No. 1-ranked Alabama hosts Arkansas on Saturday. It will then have the week off before No. 2 LSU comes to Tuscaloosa.
A year ago, after Tagovailoa had the same surgery on his left ankle, it was 13 days before he returned to practice, and even then it was on a limited basis.
Tagovailoa suffered the injury on Dec. 1 in the SEC championship game win over Georgia, and the College Football Playoff semifinal game against Oklahoma was on Dec. 29. Tagovailoa acknowledged going into that game that he wasn't 100 percent and probably only "80 to 85 percent."
The LSU game this year (Nov. 9) would be 20 days after Tagovailoa's latest surgery, which is seven days earlier than he returned to play a year ago against Oklahoma. The recovery didn't seem to hurt Tagovailoa against the Sooners. He was 24 of 27 for 318 yards and four touchdowns.
Alabama quarterback Tua Tagovailoa will miss Saturday's game against Arkansas after undergoing surgery to help repair a high-ankle sprain he suffered against Tennessee.
Tagovailoa suffered the injury during last night's win over the Volunteers. He had surgery Sunday morning.
"Our physicians performed a successful tight-rope procedure on his right ankle this morning," Alabama coach Nick Saban said in a statement. "This is the same injury, but the opposite ankle that Tua injured last season. Tua will miss next week's game against Arkansas, but we expect a full and speedy recovery."
Tagovailoa, who currently leads the FBS in QBR (95.6), has thrown 27 touchdowns and just two interceptions.
The junior from Hawaii had the "tightrope" procedure on his other ankle following the SEC Championship Game last season and returned in time to compete in the College Football Playoff.
Dr. Norman Waldrop, who was part of the team that performed the procedure on Tagovailoa a year ago, explained how it creates a more stable ankle and allows the ligaments to heal in their natural position.
"What we do is we drill a hole from the fibula into the tibia and cast these tightropes through the bone and synch it down and tighten it," Waldrop told ESPN in 2018.
"What these tightropes do are stabilize the ankle. It holds that little bone in its home. It holds it still and stable enough that the bones don't want to spread apart."
With Tagovailoa sidelined, Alabama will once again turn to former backup Mac Jones. The redshirt sophomore from Florida came on in relief of Tagovailoa against Tennessee and completed 6 of 11 pass attempts for 72 yards, no touchdowns and no interceptions.
No. 1-ranked Alabama hosts Arkansas on Saturday. It will then have the week off before No. 2 LSU comes to Tuscaloosa.
A year ago, after Tagovailoa had the same surgery on his left ankle, it was 13 days before he returned to practice, and even then it was on a limited basis.
Tagovailoa suffered the injury on Dec. 1 in the SEC championship game win over Georgia, and the College Football Playoff semifinal game against Oklahoma was on Dec. 29. Tagovailoa acknowledged going into that game that he wasn't 100 percent and probably only "80 to 85 percent."
The LSU game this year (Nov. 9) would be 20 days after Tagovailoa's latest surgery, which is seven days earlier than he returned to play a year ago against Oklahoma. The recovery didn't seem to hurt Tagovailoa against the Sooners. He was 24 of 27 for 318 yards and four touchdowns.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 5:07 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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If he plays in 3 weeks after that, major respect. That shite looks painful as hell
Posted on 10/20/19 at 5:16 pm to Revelator
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I’ve seen multiple players with high ankle sprains in the NFL and college that miss weeks and are never the same all year. If it’s possible to get a tightrope surgery and be fine in less than 2 weeks, why doesn’t everyone with high ankle sprains get the surgery?
“Since it’s inception, more then 270,000 Arthrex tightropes have been implanted globally...”
Posted on 10/20/19 at 5:46 pm to cliffset21
Lets hope he doesn't get a post surgical infection
Posted on 10/20/19 at 5:56 pm to RadarTiger
Biggest point is that he will be hobbled big time. That means you start the game rushing him as hard as you can until you hit him. Land on him hard. Make him move.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 6:03 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Check out this short video
Makes my ankle hurt watching that. If he really had this, there's no way he'll be "ready to go" in 3 weeks... No way.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 6:06 pm to TchPowDog
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Makes my ankle hurt watching that. If he really had this, there's no way he'll be "ready to go" in 3 weeks... No way
He had the same surgery last year and was ready to play in a month. Was running drills in 10 days.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 6:08 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Was running drills in 10 days.
No. He wasn't. Article said he returned to practice in 13 days and was very limited.
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