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re: Trey Holly posts about his innocence on IG

Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:03 am to
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9763 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:03 am to
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The evidence used to get the warrant for his arrest were witness testimony and bullet casings matching his gun

I’m going to ask the same thing multiple others have asked.. link? Because I have not read this.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96782 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:04 am to
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First, when did he say he was going to claim self defense?
He didn’t. But now he can’t unless he wants to 100% go back on his statement. He has publicly eliminated one of his potential roads
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5393 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:05 am to
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They not doing forensics that fast.


The shooting happened 9 days ago
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
1233 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:05 am to
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Not many people don’t claim innocence. Some don’t of course, but it doesn’t really scare a DA to have the accused say they didn’t do it

Once again, not that many people have their story hit the national news almost immediately. The more public a case, the more you have to address any conflicts. Simply how life works! If you don't, you will be asked the same questions on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, etc.
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 11:06 am
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12309 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:06 am to
I am with mdomingue. What is the source of your information? Unknown or unnamed "reports"?
Not saying you are wrong, but unless you've talked directly to the Judge who signed the arrest warrant or the officer who issued it, I would not jump to those conclusions.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10184 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:06 am to
The juvenile that was arrested is his little brother. I don't know all the details of what happened, so I'm not going to pretend I do. But what I do know is Trey was at the apartment complex, and one of the victims was shot in the back. So he can't deny he was there and there is no self-defense angle.

Trey's family is not well off but not poor either. So, coming home, he's going to be around some bad characters if he wants to visit his family. Farmerville isn't crime-ridden like Monroe or Shreveport, but it does have some criminal elements to it. Lot's of people in Union parish are fans and supporters of Trey. They've watched him grow up playing little league baseball to breaking to rushing record for Louisiana. I've talked to him several times over the years, and not once did I get a bad vibe from him. Always respectful and friendly.

I was very shocked to hear he was a suspect because it didn't seem like something he'd do. There are tons of rumors going around, but his side adamantly denies that he was involved. I hope that he wasn't, but now it's for the court's to decide.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96782 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:06 am to
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I’m going to ask the same thing multiple others have asked.. link? Because I have not read this.
There is no link. Just like there wasn’t a link he was going to be arrested multiple days ago. But guess what happened? Farmerville is extremely small.

I am 100% confident when the DA makes his first statement bullet casings will me mentioned as one of the pieces of evidence used to arrest and charge Holly. Now, is it possible somehow else used his gun? Absolutely. But that will be what is stated linking Holly
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 11:09 am
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8709 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:07 am to
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I look forward to proving my innocence. This is not how it's supposed to work.


Unfortunately, the internet age killed this for public figures. While some of us will wait to see what evidence was against people, some just let the headline dictate their opinions on the matter.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
1233 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:09 am to
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He didn’t. But now he can’t unless he wants to 100% go back on his statement. He has publicly eliminated one of his potential roads

Irrelevant unless he was going to claim self defense. I'll take his strategy and his lawyer's strategy over anyone else's since they have more facts that you or I have. Notice every time I say "he is doing the right thing" I preface it with "if he is innocent." The alone removes the theory of self defense.
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 11:10 am
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3069 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:14 am to
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I’d be curious how many people immediately skip town after an incident like that occurs at their house. Seems like sticking around would’ve been the simpler approach to resolve any misunderstanding.


I wasn’t commenting on his guilt or innocence. Obviously there are more facts in the case than simply the fact that he was at the scene when the shootings occurred. I was only commenting on the fact that his being at the apartment complex at the time in and of itself implies nothing about whether or not he is guilty. It’s not suspicious that he was in a place where he lives.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5393 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:15 am to
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Looking forward to your Trigga Trey custom cleats
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20743 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:17 am to
Farmerville is a small north Louisiana town that typical of these type of towns.

There are some areas of the town both in the city limits and outside them that are crime ridden and you usually don’t want to go to these areas but unfortunately families still live there and sometimes folks are put in a no win situation.

Now I have no idea what really happened but being from around there, family lives there, friends live there, and I know that area very well info will get out both true and false

We need to let the justice system do its job and pray that what Trey said in his statement is true and he can be absolved of the crimes he has been accused of.


Time will tell
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96782 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:19 am to
A friend of mine was found naked and dead a few years back in Farmerville. Drug related likely and no real investigation even occurred as family didn’t want to press much

No telling if it was foul play or what. But there is definitely the drug element like every small rural town
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 11:21 am
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5393 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:26 am to
What happened to this story & is this a close relative? Same apartments in 2021

LINK
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 11:26 am
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18633 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:26 am to
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no real investigation even occurred as family didn’t want to press much

I have a hard time believing that a family wouldn’t want to know what happened to their child.
Posted by paper tiger
acadiana
Member since Feb 2006
1098 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:26 am to
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Link? I haven't seen any of that from a reliable source. And for the record, eyewitness accounts is extremely shaky. I have seen a man positively id'd by 2 rape victims only to find out it was someone else. And ballistics is pretty shaky as well. I am pretty sure some jurisdictions don't even accept it as evidence.


First of all, having attended dozens of line ups, I agree eyewitness identifications can be wrong. In a crime a witness usually sees the offender just for a few moments in a highly charged atmosphere. You almost always need some other evidence than an id to convict.

I have not seen why he was arrested. My sense is that the people involved may know each other, so eyewitness confusion in that case is unlikely. To be sure, I don’t know if his identity is an issue in this case.

I have used ballistic experts in a number of cases. It’s reliable to about 99%, but that assumes you have the whole bullet and a good examiner. It’s still very compelling evidence. Gun barrels leave unique striation marks on bullets as they spin through the barrel. It’s like fingerprints.

You are also correct that admissibility of ballistics varies among jurisdictions. I think the general rule is to let it in for what it’s worth and let defense attys cross examine experts on reliability and call experts of their own. If you can recover a full bullet and the suspected weapon, then test fire the weapon and compare bullets with a good expert, ballistics is pretty reliable evidence though.

Of course who knows what any of that has to do with this case. Holly’s statement was curiously silent on him having a suspected weapon or not.

It’s all just a bunch of us message board guys speculating at this point. It’s concerning that evidently Holly was arrested after some investigation and assumedly the police gave him a chance to tell his side and still arrested him. If he took the fifth on arrest, that seems a bit inconsistent with his I have nothing to hide statement that excludes facts he thinks he can’t discuss for some reason.

I hope he gets off if innocent and gets convicted if not, clearly we dont have enough info at this point to know which.

I had written earlier the DA would have to let the grand jury decide, but thats only true if it’s a murder. A DA can charge on his own an attempted murder, unless the laws changed from my days.

Even so, a DA can present any case he wants to a grand jury and often will do so in highly publicized cases, even where the law doesn’t require a grand jury hearing. It’s a smart way for a DA to avoid the heat from both sides. Just let the grand jury decide instead.








Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5890 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:27 am to
The fact that it was at his home could work to his advantage though. You can youse deadly force if you fear your life is in danger, especially in your own home. I hope he gets cleared if he’s innocent.
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 11:29 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96782 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:28 am to
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I have a hard time believing that a family wouldn’t want to know what happened to their child.
42 year old, and the family is somewhat of a mess as well. When you already know drugs are involved it’s alot of skeletons you could I earth about your deceased family member
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18633 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:29 am to
Well that’s pretty damn sad.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20582 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:30 am to
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Matching casings to a gun is far from shaky.


That can be a bit, depending on things.

If Holly has a gun, he might go shoot occasionally. If he does that, he might pick up his spent casings (police his brass, is the term). Could be as simple as put them in his pocket, or toss them in his car (ash tray, behind his seats, etc). Before you condemn that practice, there are some folks that reload, and want spent brass... maybe he has a family member, an uncle or somebody who does that. You get enough and next time you go see him, you drop off your casings.
Some people recycle brass. Outside of the reloading, brass generally gets you about a dollar a pound or so. Toss your brass in a bucket, every so often you go sell it and make a couple bucks.

Which then leads to... casings laying around. In his car, if he is questioned and then the car searched, they are found. Or if that isn't a typo and it WAS his house, then he has spent casings there. Maybe a couple from his pocket fell when he went to pull out his keys sometime, etc.

I'm saving some brass for hard-to-find calibers I own, and I don't (yet) reload. They're not scattered everywhere, but has 1-2 fallen under a bench or on the floorboard of my truck? Maybe. Doesn't mean I shot up the place, it means I have shot those guns and didn't leave the brass laying on the ground. I rebox them ASAP to keep them organized, but I'm also not a 19 yr old kid, I may be more organized.

All that to say: CASINGS in and of themselves are not proof of guilt.
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