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re: This years team is the perfect example of why I am okay with extending the Playoff
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:12 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:12 am to Topwater Trout
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Every other level has had a 16 team playoff for as long as i can remember...the reason D1 didn't is b/c of bowl game money and the excuse they didn't want student athletes playing too many games...meanwhile 16 team playoffs were going on in other divisions. Well 30-40 yrs ago teams that made bowls, maybe 30 total, played 11 games maximum. now teams play 12 reg season games and some a conf championship then a bowl/or playoff.
And they don’t make money. The bowls made money.
It’s all about money in big time college football.
And go and review the 1AA playoffs. They added 8 more teams. It’s now a 24 team playoff. How many of the early round games are competitive? How many of the second round games?
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Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:19 am to doubleb
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And go and review the 1AA playoffs. They added 8 more teams. It’s now a 24 team playoff. How many of the early round games are competitive? How many of the second round games?
College baseball and college basketball have expanded also...seems to be a success in those sports right?
Now consider a 12 team playoff in FBS...with 4 teams there might be 6-7 teams competing for 4 spots in november. Making the last month pretty meaningless for every team/fanbase other than those...if it's 12 teams there will be twice as many teams/fanbases excited about the final games. Also playing first round games on campus is how it should be until the final game but i doubt it will ever be that way.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:19 am to WG_Dawg
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In your scenario, again I ask why you'd deserve a shot? We don't know who your 2nd loss is to but we know it isn't bama. So you've lost to an unknown team as well as to Florida but have a great win over bama. Still didn't win the west. Didn't win the SEC. Wouldn't GA likely be above LSuin this case as well? Not to mention the handful of other P5 champs and other teams they may end up with only 1 loss. If you're a 2loss team that didn't win your divsiion you absolutely do not desreve a chance to be national champion. And just ftr this has nothing to do wiht LSu (or UGA), I'm just jumping into the discussion topic.
You can’t say that . Say we win out except we lose to A&M. Say we finish tied with Bama and A& M in the West. Bama goes to Atlanta because of a 11-1 record.
Should we get in the playoffs? Only if our resume’ is better than other teams vying to be the 12th seed. That is definitely possible.
Again, it’s not going to happen but the bottom playoff teams will likely have two or more losses.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:25 am to Topwater Trout
There are other benefits to an expanded benefits other than money, It could create excitement. No doubt about that.
But there’s a downside too. More injuries, lop sided games, regular season being diminished, etc. Also a 12 team playoff and not a 4, 8, or 16 had issues.
All of that has to be weighed.
But there’s a downside too. More injuries, lop sided games, regular season being diminished, etc. Also a 12 team playoff and not a 4, 8, or 16 had issues.
All of that has to be weighed.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:40 am to LSUTigahss
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Last years 1 vs 4 seed made me resent the idea of playoff expansion. I can’t imagine what a 1 vs 12 seed game would look like
I don’t think it’s likely that you will see 1 vs. 12 before the semifinals, since 1-4 have first round byes. Depends whether they do a fixed bracket like March Madness or reseed the bracket like the NFL.
As I understand it, they are not going to reseed the bracket. That means that most likely the #1 team will be playing the winner of #8 vs. #9 in the quarterfinals. Then they would play either #4, #5, or #12 in the semis.
The #12 team would have to beat both #4 and #5 to get a chance to play #1 in the semis. Then they would have to beat #1 (assuming #1 wins in the quarterfinals) to get a chance to play in the championship.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:47 am to lostinbr
1 vs 8 will be no different than 1 vs 12, or like last year 1 vs 4.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:52 am to Swamp Angel
Tell that to the teams that get hot just at the right time in the NFL and end up winning winning the whole thing...no no no, we just need a 4 team playoff ?? there's playoffs in every other major sport. What is itb64 for basketball? God know how many for baseball..but we can't have 13 for football? Give me a break
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:28 am to 904
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The National Champion should be one of the 2 or 3 teams that played an exceptional regular season.
Define exceptional regular season...
Playing a soft schedule and going undefeated?
Remember ND getting blown out by Bama?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:33 am to Daemon Targaryen
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would anyone be shocked if we went 7-1 before Bama
If the rant was a person, it would live in a therapist’s office
This place flip flops more than a chick at the beach in sandals
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:37 am to PhillyTiger90
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would anyone be shocked if we went 7-1 before Bama?
We lose to Tennessee
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:08 pm to goatmilker
Why then does it work so well in Division II? Do they not battle injuries in DII?
Injuries to one of the 22 on the field is the reason why Rosters are as big as they are.
I wouldn't be opposed to having larger rosters to support the additional games. Hell, get rid of so many non-conference games and add another bye week.
Injuries to one of the 22 on the field is the reason why Rosters are as big as they are.
I wouldn't be opposed to having larger rosters to support the additional games. Hell, get rid of so many non-conference games and add another bye week.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:57 pm to Daemon Targaryen
Long way to go. Just need to keep improving. All remaining conference games are a challenge.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:58 pm to FCarole
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Why then does it work so well in Division II? Do they not battle injuries in DII? Injuries to one of the 22 on the field is the reason why Rosters are as big as they are. I wouldn't be opposed to having larger rosters to support the additional games. Hell, get rid of so many non-conference games and add another bye week.
Does it work well in DII? Are most of the games competitive? Do thd games promote DII football?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:17 pm to Daemon Targaryen
I think expansion is a misguided notion. The top 4 are enough to determine a legitimate champion.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:20 pm to 904
Calling B.S. on that take. LSU was playing in their 1st game and FSU had already played a game. We ALL know that teams play considerably better in G2 than G1 in any sport.
Tigers were at a distinct disadvantage against a (now we know) very quality opponent. FSU should compete for ACC this season. With their QB healthy they have a great chance. That loss should have an asterisk by it IMHO.
Tigers were at a distinct disadvantage against a (now we know) very quality opponent. FSU should compete for ACC this season. With their QB healthy they have a great chance. That loss should have an asterisk by it IMHO.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:21 pm to Daemon Targaryen
quote:It's not going happen so just enjoy the ride.
would anyone be shocked if we went 7-1 before Bama?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:30 pm to doubleb
Excitement = money
No other way to see it.
No other way to see it.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:41 pm to LSUStar
If you stick with the 4 team format where only one of maybe 7 teams have a chance to even make it yearly... the best players will continue to just flock to those teams. Long term, killing the sport. The sport needs to feel at least like your team could make a run to keep it exciting.
Every other level of football has a playoff..
Every other level of football has a playoff..
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:58 pm to LSUTigahss
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Last years 1 vs 4 seed made me resent the idea of playoff expansion. I can’t imagine what a 1 vs 12 seed game would look like
I agree.
And there has been a very clear #1 - #3 teams for many years.
I think it is fundamentally unfair to make the two best teams continue to play more and more games.
Eventually any team will lose.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:05 pm to 904
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The National Champion should be one of the 2 or 3 teams that played an exceptional regular season.
Why? In every other college sport we reward the hottest team at the end of the year rather than the one that had an exceptional regular season. A 12 team playoff keeps more fans interested in college football longer, which is a good thing.
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