re: This years team is the perfect example of why I am okay with extending the Playoff

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The whole idea of a four-team playoff in the first place was supposedly to determine who the best team was without the subjective

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Let's be honest, the whole idea behind a 4 team playoff was to eventually get to an expanded playoff. All conference champions should make the playoffs. Not sure how I feel about the at large bids outside of the conference champs.

The SEC benefits more from an expanded playoff. We're deeper top to bottom than any other conference. Our number 3 or 4 team would compete well against, say the PAC-12's champion.

We need to just go back to the BCS system. That was the best system that ever existed. frick the AP poll and all that, strictly BCS. That’s when football was the best.

Expanding to a playoff system hasn’t even done shite. The same teams are playing in the natty and winning, that would have in the older models. Who cares if UCF can’t get in? They’re not going to win regardless. Football is just way different than the other sports and college football should have never gone away from the BCS. Totally changed the game and hasn’t done what everyone wants it to do.

Because its a violent sport. Imagine top 3 LSU having to play crappy mizzu in SEC title game and then two more games in playoffs to two loss teams that have no shot. That's three extra games with all the possible injuries just to get to a title game. Would be no fun losing some of your top guys or your QB to teams that where never really in the hunt.

And it will probably be expanded again because its only about money.

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Can you name one sport or other level of football, including college, that doesn't have playoffs? Why do people think D1 CFB had the best way to determine a champion? If the NFL went to the BCS formula would it be better?

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The fact is the NFL led the way. They repeatedly expanded their regular season, and their playoffs. They did it for one reason, not to pick the “right” champion, but to make more money. CFB is following their lead.

Using a pro league’s system to justify what college is doing wrong. There is no justification for what colleges are doing excrpt to make more and more money.

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There is no justification for what colleges are doing excrpt to make more and more money.

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Every other level has had a 16 team playoff for as long as i can remember...the reason D1 didn't is b/c of bowl game money and the excuse they didn't want student athletes playing too many games...meanwhile 16 team playoffs were going on in other divisions. Well 30-40 yrs ago teams that made bowls, maybe 30 total, played 11 games maximum. now teams play 12 reg season games and some a conf championship then a bowl/or playoff.

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It would be unlikely, but say a Cinderella LSU team loses to Fliorids but beats Bama who wins the West with one kiss and bests Ga. in Atlanta. Would we be rated high with just 2 losses ? Yes.

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First, I was responding to the sceniaor in the OP which is wildly different than the one you presented.

In your scenario, again I ask why you'd deserve a shot? We don't know who your 2nd loss is to but we know it isn't bama. So you've lost to an unknown team as well as to Florida but have a great win over bama. Still didn't win the west. Didn't win the SEC. Wouldn't GA likely be above LSuin this case as well? Not to mention the handful of other P5 champs and other teams they may end up with only 1 loss.

If you're a 2loss team that didn't win your divsiion you absolutely do not desreve a chance to be national champion. And just ftr this has nothing to do wiht LSu (or UGA), I'm just jumping into the discussion topic.

A 12 team playoff allows teams who sputter at first, but finish significantly strong suddenly have to get consideration to get into the field of 12. I do like that aspect of a playoff and suggest that might be the best thing about it getting a broader base excited towards the end, like seen with March Madness.

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We need to just go back to the BCS system.

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While I hate mega playoffs, I do recognize that there are OFTEN years where you legitimately have more than 2 teams that can lay equal claim to being in teh hunt for a national title. Even if it's only 3, that's still more than 2. I think 4 is perfect and wouldn't have an issue with using the BCS and just taking 4 teams instead of 2.

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hat’s when football was the best.

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People think it was the best becuase there was parity all over the place. Just off the top of my head, in the BCS era you had Ohio state, FSU, UT, UF, Miami, VT, OU, Texas, LSU, USC, Kansas, WVU, Missouri, bama, UGA, Ok State, and I'm sure there's more that had teams in the top 3/4 late in teh season taht all had a strong case to be champs.

Fast forward to now. It's bama, clemson, and ohio state with a rotating group of oklahoma, uga, lsu making some noise as well. It's just boring when you have so few teams dominating every year. IF we still had the bcs now, people would be even MORE upset because you'd just have a bama vs ohio state title game every year. The committe isn't the problem, the lack of parity is. Unfortuantely that's not an easy fix.

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Last years 1 vs 4 seed made me resent the idea of playoff expansion. I can’t imagine what a 1 vs 12 seed game would look like

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You wont ever see this matchup. Top 4 all have bye. So 12 will play 5....etc.

And I agree with OP it is a good example, but I still think 12 way too many. Top 8 are usually the only contenders, but its all about that $$$$$$.